Government's Own Report in Support of Second

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  1. Marlin

    Marlin *TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor*

    Mar 27, 2003
    At SouthernMoss' side forever!
    Here is another very interesting article from today's Cyber~cast News Service.


    Gun Advocates Tout CDC Report, Say It Proves Their Point
    By Steve Brown Staff Writer
    October 07, 2003

    ( - Second Amendment supporters Monday praised the report issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which indicated that there is no conclusive proof gun control laws are effective in reducing gun violence.

    According to Joe Waldron, executive director of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA), gun control advocates for years have been relying on the CDC's "earlier biased research" during the Clinton administration.

    That research used gun tracking and other information in support of gun control legislation. However, in response to complaints, Congress in 1996 ordered the agency to stop conducting advocacy research.

    "It's the exact same people (today) at the CDC who have been issuing all the anti-gun reports for years," Alan Gottlieb, CCRKBA chairman, told "The bottom line is that they couldn't justify (gun control laws) as hard as they tried to refute every gun control study that's been done. They couldn't come up with any study that says that gun control works."

    The CDC's Task Force for Community Preventive Services, an independent non-federal panel of experts, assembled the report. Jonathan Fielding, director of the Los Angeles County health department and chair of the task force, spoke about the findings during a conference call for the press.

    Gottlieb explained that the gun control legislation assessed by the task force covered a "wide-range" of goals, from therapeutic foster care for violent children to community policing, to development of pro-social skills in school.

    "One part of that inquiry was to systematically assess possible effects of legal strategies in preventing death and injury from firearms, including bans on specified firearms or ammunition, restrictions, waiting periods for acquiring firearms, firearm registration, licensing firearm owners, shall-issue concealed weapons carry laws, child access prevention laws, zero tolerance laws for firearms in schools and combination of firearm laws," Fielding said.

    The task force reviewed 51 published studies dealing with various gun control laws for the report.

    "Evidence regarding the effectiveness of these laws was carefully reviewed and found to be insufficient to discern any conclusions due to inappropriate numbers of studies, unreliable data, inappropriate analyses and inconsistent result," Fielding continued.

    Fielding stipulated that "we don't mean that the law has no effect," just that the studies were too narrowly focused or had "methodological problems." In fact, those studies were "very important," and the panel "recommended additional high-quality research," Fielding said.

    Gottlieb said the CDC report was in reality a "call for more funding" to conduct the additional research until it produced a desired outcome. He also dismissed any suggestion that the pro-gun Bush administration might have attempted to manipulate the study, arguing that if it had, the CDC would not be seeking more funding.

    Questions now center on where the CDC expects to find the additional funding for more research, especially in light of the 1996 congressional order prohibiting advocacy.

    "We are prohibited from using any of our funds to advocate or promote gun control. So I think that the restrictions are really about advocacy for laws or policies," Sue Binder, director of the CDC's Injury Center, said. Binder added that the CDC had made no immediate plans for conducting further research on gun control laws.

    "But that doesn't mean that their hand isn't out and they're not looking for grants from various private and public foundations to do it with," Gottlieb said. "Not all the money that they've done all of these private studies with has been funded by government. Some of them have been funded by outside people where they get some kind of a doctor or a hospital somewhere, and they do it through the CDC surreptitiously."

    Still, some gun control advocates disputed the CCKRBA's conclusion that the CDC report proved gun control laws do not work.

    "It's hard to study whether gun control laws work in this country because we have so few of them," Peter Hamm, spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, told the Associated Press. "Talking about studying gun control in this country is like talking about studying democracy in Iraq."

    But Gottlieb took issue with Hamm's assertion.

    "His argument is that if the medicine isn't working for the patient, give him more of it," Gottlieb said. "Obviously, that's not the way you treat a patient, and it's not the way you treat violence in America."

    The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence did not return telephone calls from seeking comment for this story.
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