Just wanted to bring yall in on a little on-going debate I've had with some fellows at work. Now, I have a soft spot for Old West guns, and while discussing fighting rifles in general I made the bold statement that a good lever gun like a Winchester '94 loaded with .44 mag or maybe hot .45 Colt could hold its own in the right hands during a 21st Century gun fight (which mostly implies urban terrain). Well from the reaction I got you'd think I said a .22 LR is equal to .338 win mag for grizzly or something. Anyway, in my view a sturdy rifle/carbine like a Win '94 or similar gun with side loading gate (not like Henrys or anything with detachable mag), that holds 9+ rounds, in a good pistol caliber is a reasonable piece of hardware. I say that it can be steadily loaded on the move, hits hard enough, has low recoil, is a reasonably fast repeater, can share ammo with a sidearm, and (gasp!) a better than average shot can hit with one at 200+ yards enough times to be dangerous. The quick pointing handling has some of the same characteristics desired in a modern assault rifle. The opposition says that modern fighting iron like the AK, M16/M4, G3, and such will put the old Win '94 at such disadvantage through ballistic prowess and ergonomic brilliance that defeat for the cowboy gun would be just a matter of rabbit vs the turtle. They do have some historic data to back up their argument too (which I won't repeat). One good friend (who to give him his due, has probably forgotten more about assault rifles than most of us mortals will ever even know) tells me that any 'ol cheap 3rd world 9mm sub-machine gun in the hands of a novice will shoot rings around the gun that won the West (yeah, I know there was the '73 and all that). Just some thought. Opinions welcomed of course. **Disclaimer** For anyone offended by the combined words of "assault" and "rifle" or "fighting" and "gun" or similar useage please insert some of the following words as applicable so as to be less offensive. fuzzy~~~~~bunny bouncy~~~~kitten saucy~~~~~dancer tasty~~~~~orange Use in any combination until political correctness is restored.