H&R Hammerless high serial Number

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  1. Old Gun Guy

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    Hello!
    I recently picked up this H&R hammerless .38 S&W large frame revolver with a high serial number. The Blue Book Of Gun Values lists this as a 2nd model large frame, 4th variation. It shows this revolver was manufactured in 1913-1915. The serial # range they give is 120000-160000(estimate). The one I show has the serial # of 357169. This # is on the bottom of the butt, left side of the grip strap, under the top strap, and last 3 digits are on the cylinder.
    Jim, will this affect the serial # range that's listed in the new H&R book?
    Old Gun Guy
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  2. Jim Hauff

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    Old Gun Guy,
    No that will not affect the s/n range - BECAUSE - it's not a HAMMERLESS MODEL. What you have there is 3rd Model 3rd Variation POLICE AUTOMATIC EJECTING made between 1913 and 1915. The POLICE AEs were equipped with the H&R Patented "SAFETY HAMMER" - non spurred, but same mass as the one with the spur, hammer.
    These are fairly commonly found although in much less quantities than the very popular AUTOMATIC/AUTO EJECTING variants.
    Yours looks to be in pretty darn good shape, from the pics maybe 80 to 85% finish, with some dings, grips smoothed out a bit from handling - worth at RETAIL, currently, probably in the $125 to $145 range. It is a smokeless model - so if it's in safe condition - shoot it. Checking in my reference file - I see that your piece has a high serial number for a "POLICE" variant.
    Here's a pic of one of mine with the safety hammer, followed by a TRUE HAMMERLESS LARGE FRAME:

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  3. Old Gun Guy

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    Jim,
    You are absolutely correct. I knew it was a safety-hammer, but for some stupid reason I called it a "hammerless" , and even looked it up under that mistake. Another of my frequent "senior moments".
    Thanks Jim!
    Old Gun Guy
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    Old Gun Guy,
    Wadda ya talking about? :confused:
    When did we talk about this? :bleh:
    Who are you?:mad:
    Who the hell am I?:eek:

    What the hell is this stuff?:
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    those are smart pills you take 2 three times a day for two weeks watch the improvement.
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    Oldmedik, don't tell anyone else - actually those are Chipmunk turds - got a tame one running around - watched him leave these for me. Don't see these very often - that's a "macro" close-up. :rolleyes:
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