Harrington and Richardson 0.410

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  1. AMYER09

    AMYER09 New Member

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    I just received a hand-me-down 410 gauge Harrison and Richardson gun. I was hoping you could help me out with information on it.

    On the bore it reads "410 12m/m choke." What does 12 m/m mean?

    The serial no? behind the trigger is A123092. The gun is in fair condition.

    What is the gun worth? Can you tell me anything else about this gun.
  2. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

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    The external dimension of a 410 shotshell is approximately 11.5mm. I presume that, at some time in the past (most probably in Europe) the 410 shotshell was referred to as a 12mm shotshell.
  3. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    the 410 shell was first an american invention the 12mm and 14 mm shotshells were european small bore loading.

    H&R marked their 410's with the 410-12mm marking between 1922 and 1936. after that time they were only marked 410 when the 3 inch shells were introduced.

    during this time H&R manufactured two difference sizes of frames for the 410 each with their own model number. the model 1915/05 small frame and the model 1908/08 standard size frame.

    H&R used the A letter code to denote a single barrel shotgun early on my best guess as to the age of your shotgun would be about 1929 or so.

    MODEL 1908----------------------------------------------------------1909-1942
    Single Barrel, Standard Size Frame, Top Lever Break Action, Barrel Lock is Non-Self Adjustable, Three Piece Take Down (Non-Removable Hinge Pin), 12, 16, 20, 24 & 28 Gauges, Barrel Length of 26, 28, 30 & 32 inches, Walnut Pistol Griped Butt-Stock and Fore-Arm, Hard Rubber Butt Plate, Frame is Case Hardened and Barrel is Browned, Available as Ejector & Non-ejector, Weight 5¾ to 6 3/8 Pounds, Advertised as having Steel Barrel
    First Variation- identifying features 2 ½ inch chambers, very slim and short Forearm-----------1909-1921
    Second Variation- identifying features, 2¾ inch Chambers, Slim Long Fore-Arm (24 & 28 Gauges dropped in 1923)----------1922-1930
    Third Variation- 410 Bore added in 1925------------------------1925-1942
    Fourth Variation Known as No. 8 Standard the Model Name “STANDARD” is marked on Left side of Frame, Wider Fore-Arm-----1931-1942
    This Model was made available to the Mail-Order Trade as a Brand Name Shotgun Deduct 25 %
    VALUE: 100%=$195 60%=$55 the 24 and 28 Gauges are Worth a 25% Premium

    MODEL 1915----------------------------------------------------------1916-1942
    Single Barrel, Small Size Frame, Top Lever Break Action, Barrel Lock is Non-Self Adjustable, Three Piece Take Down (Non-Removable Hinge Pin), Available as Ejector & Non-ejector, 24, 28, 12mm, 14mm Gauges and 410-44, 45 Shot chambering, barrel Length 26,28, & 30 inches, Walnut Pistol Griped Butt-Stock Fore-Arm, Hard Rubber Butt Plate, Frame is Case Hardened and Barrel is Browned, Weight 4 to 4¾ Pounds. The 410 Bore can be Dated by its markings,
    410-44 =1916-1921,
    410-12MM =1922-1936
    410 =1937-1941 (this is the only 410 Pre WWII chambered for the 3 inch shell
    First Variation identifying features- Slim and Short Fore-Arm----------1916-1921
    Second Variation identifying features-Long Forearm, Squared off Pistol Grip, 45 caliber dropped---1922-1930
    Third Variation identifying features- Now Known as the Model No.5 Standard (which may be marked on the frame------1931-1936
    Fourth Variation identifying features- 410 is chambered for 3 inch shells---1937-1942
    This Model was made available to the Mail-Order Trade as a Brand Name Shotgun
    VALUE: 100%=$365 60%=$155

    bill
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2009
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