Harrington and Richardson 32 cal. help needed

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  1. jlloyd73

    jlloyd73 New Member

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    I need helping to identify this gun so that I get the proper parts. I wanted to get it right for a member of my family. I know the gun isn't worth much if anything, but I think that if I could get it shooting properly it would be a fun plinker. The trigger does not work properly and it looks like the sear is missing. It has a 6" barrel and is a top break model. I cannot find the proper schematic on Numrich because I am not really sure what model it is. I really need to find the proper trigger parts to get this fixed. If you have a pic of the break down of this gun, could you please provide it for me?

    Top is marked "Harrington & Richardson Arms Co., Worchester. Massachucets U.S.A."
    Left side marked "32 S&W CTGF"
    Under top break and grips "467941"

    Thanks for any help you can provide.
  2. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    large frame auto-ejector third model or a small frame Premier second model if it is a 6 shot it is the large frame auto-ejecting and if it is a 5 shot it is the small frame premier

    AUTOMATIC EJECTING THIRD MODEL
    (SMOKELESS POWDER)----------------------------1905-1940
    Auto-ejecting mechanism, Calibers 32 S&W Long, 6 shot cylinder capacity, 38 S&W caliber 5 shot cylinder capacity, hard rubber grip panels with Target Logo, nickel finish (blue optional), barrel lengths of 2½ (rare), 3¼ (standard), 4, 5 & 6 inches available, top of barrel markings include company name and address and early production has patent dates, the one recognizable difference in the Second and Third Models is the caliber is marked on the
    left side of the barrel on the Third Model
    “IF IT HAS A CALIBER MARKED ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BARREL THEN IT WAS MANUFACTURED FOR SMOKELESS POWDER”
    First Variation 4 patent dates (5-14 & 8-6-89, 4-2-95, 4-7-97) model name and caliber on left side of barrel------------1905-1908
    Second Variation 2 patent dates (8-6-89 and 10-8-95) model name and caliber on left side of barrel----------------------1909-1912
    Third Variation no patent dates the name of the state is marked as MASS-----------------------------------------------------1913-1915
    Fourth Variation no patent dates the state name of Massachusetts is spelled---------------------------------------------------1916-1924
    Fifth Variation new grip frame, it is now the same size as the rest of the frame with no step down for the grip panel—1925-1941
    After 1931 listed in Catalogs as: AUTOMATIC EJECTING No. 10 .32 S&W LONG CALIBER 6 shots and AUTOMATIC EJECTING No. 25 .38 S&W CALIBER 5 shots
    After 1932 listed in Catalogs as: AUTOMATIC EJECTING No. 20..38 S&W CALIBER 5 shots
    VALUE: 100%=$235 60%=$85 For all Auto-Ejecting 3rd Models; add 75% premium for 2½” barrel; add 25% for 4”, 5” & 6” barrels; add 15% for blue finish;


    H&R PREMIER SECOND MODEL SMALL FRAME TOP BREAK R.F. & C.F. --------------------------------------------------------------------------1905-1941
    Small fame double action top break revolver with double top post barrel latch; calibers and cylinder capacity, 22 rimfire-7 rounds, 32 S&W, 5 rounds; automatic cylinder stop; standard finish Nickel with case harden hammer and barrel latch; standard barrel length 3 inches, with 2, 4, 5 and 6 inches available as optional;
    HAS CALIBER MARKINGS ON LEFT SIDE OF BARREL WAS MANUFACTURED FOR SMOKELESS POWDER CARTRIDGE PRESSURES.
    There has not been enough data gathered on serial number to try to come up with a serial number range for the different variations.
    First Variation, model name & caliber marked on left side of barrel, patent dates 5-14-89, 4-2-95, 4-7-96--------1905-Only
    Second Variation, model name & caliber marked on left side of barrel, patent dates 4-2-95, 4-7-96-----------------1906-1908
    Third Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel, patent date 10-8-95-----------------------1909-1913
    Fourth Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel, no patent date, state not spelled out in address (MASS)------------------1914-1915
    Fifth Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel same as 4th except different font used in barrel markings--------------------1914-1915
    Sixth Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel. State name in barrel marking spelled out (MASSACHUSETTS)----------1916-1924
    Seventh Variation, new grip frame, there is no step down for the grip panels to fit into-----------------1925-1942
    After 1930 listed in catalogs as; PREMIER No. 30 .22 Rimfire 7 shot and PREMIER No. 35.32 S&W 5 shot
    VALUE: 100%=$265 60%=$75 Add 10% premium for blue finish; 20% premium 4”, 5” or 6” barrel; 20% premium for 22 rimfire caliber; 10% premium for 7th variation

    manufactured between 1916 and 1924, some used parts suppliers call this the "new model"
    bill
  3. jlloyd73

    jlloyd73 New Member

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    Thank you for the information. This will help me a great deal in my search for parts. I have seem many post that you have done on the guns and you are great. I have also seen quite a few post from 45Auto that have pointed me in the right direction.
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