Harrington and Richardson Revolver help

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by Old Wheelgun, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. Jim Hauff

    Jim Hauff New Member

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    jlloyd73,
    Glad we got that straightened out. You're welcome and thanks for thanking. Hope your project works out well.
  2. Old Wheelgun

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    My hand spring has a flat wire. I don't think the end broke off the spring since i cant see or hear any broken pieces inside. However, if the trigger is down...not fully cocked, I can see a small hole in the side of the trigger which I am assuming is the notch in the trigger which the spring goes into. If the gun is pointed up or down, you can see the spring moving in or out of that notch so I don't think it's out of place. What's the problem???
  3. Jim Hauff

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    Old Wheelgun,
    Take a look, back up at post #8 by 45 Auto - the trigger on the left - see the pin?
    Does the hole, in your trigger look like it's in the same place?
    Check the attached pic for location when trigger is assembled.

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  4. Old Wheelgun

    Old Wheelgun New Member

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    The hole that I mentioned is where the end of the flat spring goes into. It's just forward of the solid pin that connects the lifter to the trigger. It's To the left of your arrow Jim. That hole or notch is visible even when the gun is fully assembled.
  5. Jim Hauff

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    Old - I'm not sure what fits in there. Do you see the faint trace of the pin just to the left of the arrow in my picture? That's about the only thing I can find on any of the models and variations of the Auto Ejecting/Automatics that appears on the triggers themselves????? I'm sorry, but I'm lost.
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    The only two H&R All American DA models in 44 I have ever seent, I bought. One works perfectly. The other has a problem I need help with. After pulling the trigger, it stays back and will not return. Don't know what I need to do here but Gun Parts has no trigger return springs. Please email me at dr.graham@live.com THANKS
  7. Jim Hauff

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    drgraham,
    Welcome to the forum. The H&R AMERICAN DOUBLE ACTION revolvers chambered for .44 Webley and .44 American Bulldog cartridges are built on what collectors call the "extra large frame" - which is dimensionally larger than the frame used for the .32 and .38 loadings. Most were made during the black powder era (for H&R that ended in 1904) although production seems to have continued on to around 1920-21.
    I've not had one apart - but I BELIEVE that the innerds for the standard LARGE frame AMERICAN DOUBLE ACTION should fit this XL frame .44 cal. ???? This, at least to me is an open question.
    Try Jack First gun parts at: www.jackfirstgun.com - if what I read on the forums is correct they should have the trigger return spring - you might want to enquire of those folks if the internal parts for the standard frame will fit/work in the XL frame. I, for one, would be interested in hearing about the interchangability - as I have never seen this question come up before. The XL .44s are somewhat obscure and aren't seen very often. I only have several of them, all pre - 1905, all though I've seen pics of some post 1905 smokeless capable pieces with the cartridge stamping on the left barrel flat. All the .44s I've seen have a hinged loading gate on the right side of the frame.
    For those who haven't seen one of these, here's a couple pics:


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    ALLEN WHEELOCK 1861 PARTS HELP

    I have an Allen Wheelock 36 cal. navy revolver 1861 one of five hundred made. I am looking for the cylinder rod, anyone out there thaat can help would be appreciated.
    MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS DRIZ10225@HOTMAIL.COM.
    Thanks for your time. Dan
  10. Crippled Eagle

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    Hello All
    Sure am glad I found this forum! Seems as if there is a huge amount of knowledge here.
    I'd like help please with IDing a Harrington and Richardson revolver. It has a bit over a 3" barrel, it says on the left side of the barrel: 32 S.&W. CTGE.. On the top of the barrel it states Harrington & Richardson Arms Co. Worcester, Mass. U.S.A. No patent dates. This is a hammerless break top 6 shot revolver. It appears it was nickle plated with a blued trigger guard. There is on the front strap of the gun the numbers 193001. I am unsure how to remove the cylinder to check for that number so any guidance in that area is welcomed. This has the target on the grips and a "sunflower" like raised area around the screw for the grips. On the cylinder are stamped the numbers 193 001 I have no ability right now to take pictures our I would post some. Seems the digital camera has sprouted legs.
    I am sure there are many on here that can ID this and I thank you in advance for your efforts!
    Regards
    Marvin
  11. Jim K

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    This thread is well over a year old, and Jim Hauff is ill at this time.

    I suggest Dan and Marvin open new threads on their respective questions and include some pictures.

    Briefly, I know of no source for A&W parts; it should be possible to have that cylinder pin made, but time would be required to study just what it looks like, so it might be expensive.

    H&R made many models in .32 S&W caliber. Pictures might help identify that one, but it sounds like a fairly low value gun.

    Jim
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