Hi, I have read for a while about my gun and have a few questions.
H&R 410 12 mm, 28" barrel, 2.5" chambering, hinge pin is removable.
Patent Feb 27, 1900
Serial 101860 on bottom and barrel.
"E" stamp on bottom hinge area of barrel.
From what Ive read I believe its date is from 1922-1936.
Is this date correct? What does the "E" tell me? What specific ammo does this take?
The stock is taped in clear tape at the mating point and has a slight wiggle side to side. the rubber recoil pad is hard and 1/4 broken off.
Should I work to get the original stock repaired or get a new one? Not so interested in selling as using using again, but would be fun to keep it original if possible.
Calgary, Alberta
thanks.
It may only have a 2" chamber unless lengthened. Here's an adv. from 1915 Sears catalog.
The .44XL was a .44-40 case with wooden or paper shot capsule.
By 1920 the price had risen to $9.95 and listed for ".44 caliber XL shot cartridge or the 410 smokeless powder loaded shell"
Cost effective to restore it to original, no. The parts would cost you more than the gun is worth { if you did the work yourself }. However the ideal of restoring an old gun back to useful condition sometimes transcends the monetary cost. Really a personal choice, as that old gospel song goes " You have to walk that road yourself ".
Now, you must consider if the full length of the chamber is what you are measuring is 2 1/2 in. do not shoot 2 1/2 in shells in it, the crimp on the front of the shell must have someplace to go.
IMHO!!
That's the chamber diameter, not the bore. In Europe the designation for .410s is 12 m/m, and maybe H&R included that for foreign sales. (Note the 12 m/m mark on the Belgian .410 just reviewed)
A question or two for you, is the stock the only issue or does it have mechanical problems as well?
Does the action lock up tight or is it loose?
When you remove the tape is there a small crack letting it wiggle or is it holding one or more completely broken pieces in place?
Broken or cracked stocks can be repaired reasonably inexpensively, it will cost you for some epoxy, a bottle of True Oil and a few sheets of sand paper and a little elbow grease, butt pads aren't all that expensive and aren't hard to install either.
If it isn't still mechanically sound post some pictures of what is broken or worn, some of the gunsmiths here can give you tips on where to find parts and how to install them.
Loose actions can be tightened up but doing it right means taking it to an expert and you want it to be right, your safety and others safety depends on it.
Grizzley1, apologies for not replying sooner, project was shelved but now have found some time. Appreciate the support.
Stock has a small missing piece of wood and the stock moves about 1 mm. Action is tight with all parts moving smoothly. I have not removed the tape, but will now and see if there is more issues.
I have a very similar shotgun. It's not as old as yours and is not marked 12mm. Other than that, it looks very similar.
It's in much better condition though.
I paid $75 for it including a $15 soft case about 10 years ago.
Removed the stock. A few cracks and the end is a bit worn, but likely worth the effort to try epoxy. Found some videos on that to follow. Any other suggestions?
Charly
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Hard to tell the exact model and dates as H&R made a bazillion of these with no regard for model numbers, standardized features, markings, trade names, etc, etc, etc... At any rate, here is a similar, if not the same, model of small cartridge single barrel shotgun from my 1922 H&R catalog.
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Jeff
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