Have you called your senator?

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by GregM, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. GregM

    GregM Former Guest

    Nov 12, 2009
    Please do.
    Tell them to vote NO on this POS Healthcare bill.

    If you don't do it we will all lose
  2. jedwil

    jedwil Well-Known Member

    Sep 11, 2009
    Texas Hill Country
    I have emailed both repeatedly. Neither supports it.
  3. henry77

    henry77 New Member

    Jul 8, 2009
    Wiggins, MS
    Mine are both Republicans. Hopefully, they will do the right thing and say NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
  4. GregM

    GregM Former Guest

    Nov 12, 2009
    You are lucky

    Here in WA we have the worst of ignoring senators and reps.
    I email Jay Inslee and was ignored
    I emailed Maria Cantwell and got a form letter that said "piss off"
    I emailed Patty Murray and got a form letter that said "piss off"

    I re-emailed Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell and told them to look for a new job
  5. GunHugger

    GunHugger Well-Known Member

    Jul 18, 2007
    SW PA
  6. GregM

    GregM Former Guest

    Nov 12, 2009
    Thank you

    Don't assume anything. The only way to beat this thing is to call your senator.
    There's better ways to fix the problems we know we have.

    This healthcare bill is not the way
  7. ponycar17

    ponycar17 Active Member

    Feb 17, 2005
    South Carolina
    I haven't called them. I have however emailed them often... ;)
  8. muddober

    muddober Active Member

    Sep 19, 2008
    One of mine is that worthless bastard Harry Reid and while I did I probably would make more headway trying to fly to the moon. John Ensign has made it public that he is opposing it.

  9. GunHugger

    GunHugger Well-Known Member

    Jul 18, 2007
    SW PA
    Here's a few tidbits and there are 1500+ more pages.

    If you email them feel free to include all or part of the following;

    I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the following
    troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot possibly believe
    that these proposals are in the best interests of the country and our fellow

    Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all
    employers that self-insure!!

    Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill: THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides
    what treatments/benefits you get.

    Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

    Page 42 of HC Bill: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC
    benefits for you. You have no choice!

    Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens,
    illegal or otherwise.

    Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals' finances &
    a 'National ID Health card' will be issued!

    Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your bank
    accounts for elective funds transfer.

    Page 65 Sec 164: Is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families
    in unions & community organizations: (ACORN).

    Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC
    plans in the 'Exchange.'

    Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans –– The
    Govt will ration your health care!

    Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services.
    (Translation: illegal aliens.)

    Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups (i.e. ACORN &
    Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.

    Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. (AARP
    members - your health care WILL be rationed!)

    Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid eligible individuals will be
    automatically enrolled in Medicaid. (No choice.)

    Page 12 4 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No
    "judicial review" against Govt monopoly.

    Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association - The
    Govt will tell YOU what salary you can make.

    Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public
    option plan. (NOchoice!)

    Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part-time employees AND
    their families. (Employees shouldn't get excited about this as employers
    will be forced to reduce its work force, benefits, and wages/salaries to
    cover such a huge expense.)

    Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not
    provide public option will pay 8% tax on all payroll! (See the last comment
    in parenthesis.)

    Page 150 Lines 9-13: A business with payroll between $251K & $401K who
    doesn't provide public option will pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.

    Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC
    according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.

    Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual
    taxes. (Americans will pay.)

    Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of the GOVT HC Admin.. will have
    access to ALLAmericans' finances and personal records.

    Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be
    treated as tax." (Yes, it really says that!)

    Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for
    Medicaid Seniors. (Low-income and the poor are affected.)

    Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors: It doesn't matter what specialty you
    have trained yourself in –– you will all be paid the same! (Just TRY to tell
    me that's not Socialism!)

    Page 253 Line 10-18: The Govt sets the value of a doctor's time, profession,
    judgment, etc. (Literally–– the value of humans.)

    Page 265 Sec 1131: The Govt mandates and controls productivity for "private"
    HC industries.

    Page 268 Sec 1141: The federal Govt regulates the rental and purchase of
    power driven wheelchairs.

    patients - welcome to rationing!

    Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever the Govt
    deems preventable (i.e...re-admissions).

    Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors: If you treat a patient during initial
    admission that results in a re-admission –– the Govt will penalize you.

    Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. (The Govt tells
    doctors what and how much they can own!)

    Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion. (The Govt is
    mandating that hospitals cannot expand.)

    Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have the opportunity to apply for exception BUT
    community input is required. (Can you say ACORN?)

    Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: The Govt mandates establishment of=2
    outcome-based measures. (HC the way they want –– rationing.)

    Page 341 Lines 3-9: The Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance
    Plans, HMOs, etc. (Forcing people into the Govt plan)

    Page 354 Sec 1177: The Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of 'special needs
    people!' Unbelievable!

    Page 379 Sec 1191: The Govt creates more bureaucracy via a "Tele-Health
    Advisory Committee." (Can you say HC by phone?)

    Page 425 Lines 4-12: The Govt mandates "Advance-Care Planning Consult."
    (Think senior citizens end-of-life patients.)

    Page 425 Lines 17-19: The Govt will instruct and consult regarding living
    wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. (And it's mandatory!)

    Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: The Govt provides an "approved" list of
    end-of-life resources; & nbsp;guiding you in death. (Also called 'assisted

    Page 427 Lines 15-24: The Govt mandates a program for orders on
    "end-of-life." (The Govt has a say in how your life ends!)

    Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced-care planning consultant" will be used
    frequently as a patient's health deteriorates.

    Page 429 Lines 10-12: An "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER
    for end-of-life plans. (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?!?)

    Page 429 Lines 13-25: The GOVT will specify which doctors can write an
    end-of-life order. (I wouldn't want to stand before God after getting paid
    for THAT job!)

    Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will
    have at end-of-life! (Again –– no choice!)

    Page 469: Community-Based Home Medical Services = Non-Profit Organizations.
    (Hello? ACORN Medical Services here!?!)

    Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover marriage and family therapy. (Which
    means Govt will insert itself into your marriage even.)

    Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining,
    creating, and rationing those services.
  10. GunHugger

    GunHugger Well-Known Member

    Jul 18, 2007
    SW PA
    So far this topic only shows 47 views. That tells me that people aren't interested in taking the time to email and CALL their reps.

    PLEASE...I know they don't seem to care what we think. BUT, please do it. If they are reminded in large numbers that we don't want this and they will loose their jobs if they support it...it MIGHT help.

    And it has to be better than doing nothing except bitching about it later.
  11. GregM

    GregM Former Guest

    Nov 12, 2009

  12. mrkirker

    mrkirker New Member

    Jul 13, 2007
    U.S. Senator Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, today issued the following statement on the Senate Democratic health care bill: “Senator Reid’s bill is appropriate for the season: it’s the same turkey you didn’t like in August, and it’s not going to taste any better on Thanksgiving."

    That's my guy!
  13. 40CalJoe

    40CalJoe New Member

    Jun 28, 2009
    In the middle
    I faxed and E-mailed my Senator, Bill Nelson (D) and urged him to vote NO. I tried calling the Washington office and it has been busy all day, local office is no answer.

    My House Rep, Adam Putnam (R), voted NO on the House version of the Bill last week.
  14. tcox4freedom

    tcox4freedom Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Nov 5, 2009
    South Carolina USA
    I communicate with my senators office regularly. But it will take an act of God to get my "House" Rep to change his mind. Jimbo Clyburn is a sellout in the highest order.
  15. bcj1755

    bcj1755 New Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    A wretched hive of scum and villiany
    My Rep, Myrick voted against the House version. I've got a 50/50 split on my Senators. Burr is dead set against AdolfCare, but Hagan is all for it. Not only that, but Hagan has a blurb on her offical webpage about how she actually got to help WRITE the damn AdolfCare bill!:mad::mad: Burr is up for reelection next year, but I'm stuck with Hagan's sorry liberal a** until 2014!:mad::mad:
  16. Terry_P

    Terry_P New Member

    Mar 23, 2008
    I contacted the democrat thru the web and told her I didn't need some gov bureaucrat with a comparative effectiveness chart pinned to the wall of their cubicle determining what healthcare I can receive. I also told her that if she voted for it that it was a deal breaker in 2014 (her re-election year not that I would have voted for her anyway).

    The republican has committed to vote against it and isn't running again.
  17. oldogy

    oldogy New Member

    Jan 10, 2009
    East TN
    Phone calls and emails to both. Both TN Senators have voiced and written opposition to this turkey legislation.
  18. Hells Toy Master

    Hells Toy Master New Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    Washington not far from tacoma


    Cause we are the stuipid ones that know nothing of the glory of the goverment and cannot be smart enough to relise the chains they are cuffing us to with this bill.

    our senators will not lisen to us.... Every one of us can stand in front of any 1 of them and we could not change their minds... heck we could not even get them to akgnowlege our existance, let alone convince them to change their vote.

    The republic is dead. Obama nation is here.

  19. GunHugger

    GunHugger Well-Known Member

    Jul 18, 2007
    SW PA
    You can't complain that someone doesn't listen to you if you say nothing.

    I know they don't care what we say but that doesn't mean that we should remain silent.

    Sort of like not voting and then complaining about who won. :rolleyes:
  20. Trouble 45-70

    Trouble 45-70 New Member

    Apr 10, 2009
    NE Ar. W. of Black River
    Called my Sens. state offices yesterday afternoon. Sen. Lincolns staffer was polite and said she would pass along my concerns. Sen. Priors staffer on the other hand was abrupt and extremely annoyed. I don't know if her annoyance was because she was dealing with someone too stupid to know what was good for him or if she had been taking calls all day from extremely pi**ed off Arkansans. The latter I hope. She had better buckle up as this is only the first of many procedural votes before this disaster nails us all. Wonder what they are going to squander 4 years of revenue on before they actually have to start paying for this POS.
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