Help me chose a self/home defence gun

Discussion in 'Self Defense Tactics & Weapons' started by Desertice, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. gun runner

    gun runner Former Guest

    Nov 23, 2011
    South Texas
    I would get a Springfield M1A1 .308 . lots of stopping power and you get about a 10+1 capacity but also a great choice would be like the other member advised with the 12 gauge with buckshot option. If I were you I would rather just buy one centerfire rifle, one 12 gauge pump shotgun, and one handgun. Good Luck and I hope everything works out for ya.

    Also welcome to the forum!
  2. savage170

    savage170 Member

    May 3, 2011
    Sounds like a Ruger P94 fits your criteria American made all stainless steel 15 rds under 500.00 hardest will be finding a new in the box one as the later ones use the poly frame

  3. aa1911

    aa1911 Well-Known Member

    Dec 12, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    Great advice Carver, I agree completely. Many small things such as locking windows/doors, using lights, motion lights, cameras (game cameras are great for this too) and awareness, etc will get you about 99% of the way. The firearm will be to take care of the determined or unexpected 1%

    For the home my recommendation is something like a Mossberg 590, 20" barrel and 8 +1 capacity, hard to beat, especially with a tac light/surefire. But assuming you want something that you can have on you all the time, you can't go wrong with a good 1911 or a glock even. Either is at the upper end of your price but anything will be. Don't forget you need ammmo, magazines, holster, mag holders, cleaning kit, etc. when you are factoring true cost.

    XD's, M&P's, Glock are the mainstay polymers out there these days and a good place to start. Very simple to use and easy to upgrade/modify as needed. But I love a good 1911, you will likely need to spend a bit more for one of those though, won't regret it either.

    Given your location, a rifle is not what you should be using if you had a choice due to penetration. 7.62 and many others will go through entire houses/buildings and cars. Shotgun with #4 buck, #1 buck or OO buck is a good load and won't overpenetrate too bad.
  4. howlnmad

    howlnmad Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Nov 26, 2008
    Harriman, Tn
    Chicago gun owner :eek:. I really like the EAA witness that Jack posted. It has a nice feel and large capacity.
  5. jbrescue

    jbrescue New Member

    Mar 8, 2012
    N. Ridgeville, Ohio
  6. MadScotsMan

    MadScotsMan Member

    Jun 25, 2012
    I think any variation of the Mossberg 500/590 platform is ideal. I use #4 buckshot as it still packs a wallop and rarely over-penetrates. In home defense (IMHO) a handgun should be the second line of firearms defense after the shotgun. Get some training on using a shotgun in close quarters. Nothing scares a baddie more than the sound of a 12 gauge being racked, except maybe for the sound of it being fired.

    If you have your heart set on a handgun, consider if you are going to carry it or not. If you're not going to carry, then size and concealability is less of an issue. There are a number of good 9mm (and .40s and .45s) handguns under $500.
  7. TheGunClinger

    TheGunClinger Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Thats a good one but too pricey. You can buy basic models for much less and then you can add stuff later much cheaper. Here is what we use for home protection at night. On my side of the bed is a Mossy 500 that added an adjustable stock and ammo carrier. Very tacticool. My wifes is the stock Crusier that I showed before. I also keep a Sig P-220 .45 with Crimson trace laser grips and a light on the headboard. My wife keeps her S&W M&P 9mm on her side. We never go to bed mad.:D Also is a pic of how we attach the Mossy's to the bed. They just slide between the mattress and box springs.

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  8. cheesewiz

    cheesewiz Well-Known Member

    Mar 25, 2012
    Just my humble option . I just purchased one of these for $420 . It fits 8 out of your ten requirements , Stoeger Cougar 9mm 15 round capacity , simple stupid to take down, very reliable and it's all beretta . Double action/ single and a decocker. Now it's produced in turkey but on Beretta machines ...long story .

    If you had a beretta before you would probabley like this one too. I had a 92f before also .

    Mark -


    The good news the new 9mm has an accessory rail on the bottom too :)
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  9. dad2thebone

    dad2thebone New Member

    Jul 10, 2011
    I have to go with a 20 ga mossberg pistol grip too. I have a 12 ga with flashlight mounted and find it does all you need and the side of bed mount is perfect!
  10. aa1911

    aa1911 Well-Known Member

    Dec 12, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    My recommendation if you go shotgun is to have a buttstock rather than just a pistol grip. Gives you so much more control it's not even funny, really helps you point the gun. It may not seem like you need it in close quarters but it also serves as an impact weapon for last resort or less than lethal.

    Mossberg 500 is good but you cannot upgrade the mag tube, 590 is ideal I think (very noisy action which is good!) with a light.
  11. Zane71464

    Zane71464 Well-Known Member

    Aug 1, 2009
    Ohio NRA Member
    Less than 500 bucks....

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  12. Desertice

    Desertice New Member

    Aug 29, 2012
    Chicago, IL
    Great .....

    it seems that I will have to get both: a 12 ga Mossberg and a pistol. I will start by the shotgun first,,, i am doing some research and i found that some has a built in light ,,,, is that efficient and sufficient? does it jusstify the cost increase?
    how about the after market lights?
    also, I think i like the idea of having a pistol grip with adjustable tactical stock ... i saw that on a mossberg 500A1

    it also has a heat shield which is nice to have. the reviewer said it came with all these accessories out of the box without modification... but i cannot find it like this online.... i even searched mossberg catalog and i could not find it.... any idea? price?

    another idea is to get the mossy combo,,, so i can switch barrels if i ever decided to go hunting... here is one that looks good,,, any comments/ideas?
  13. UncleDannie

    UncleDannie New Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Livingston, Texas
    Or, you could split the difference. Buy a Taurus Judge. Shoots a .410 shotshell inside the house, or it will shoot a .45 cal Long Colt outside the house. One of my nephews bought the 2", non-mag pistol and carries it as a Concealed Carry Weapon.
  14. Desertice

    Desertice New Member

    Aug 29, 2012
    Chicago, IL
    this thing is pretty ..... I used one of these long time ago for bird hunting :)
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