HELP!!! WARDS WESTERN FIELD MODEL30

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    hello everyone,
    ive been reading your posts for weeks now, and finally decided to join. good to meet you all, unfortunatly i also need alittle bit of help. i have a wards western field model 30, made by stevens. the model 30 resembles a ww1 trench gun, 12 guage. im trying to tear it apart and reblue the steel, as well as refinish the stocks, where i am running into problems is getting the barrel out of the reciever, getting the slide off of the magazine tube, getting the action arm (or whatever the proper term is) disconnected from the slide and the bolt, and removing the bolt.i have figured out how to get the rest of the internal workings out. also i need a supplier for some springs trigger springs, and a detailed parts diagram. i know its a big request, but im hopeful that you guys can help out. this is my first time taking apart a shotgun this old, and its definatly not like tearing into a mossberg, remington870 or anything modern. thanks in advance for all your time and help. sorry for writing a book. Ray in California

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    ok i got it apart, finally.. took forever, but its in peices now. now i just need some parts, firing pin, trigger springs (both of them on the trigger group) and a steel butt plate like on the winchester 97? anyone know of a supplier for these parts??? thanks for your time , Ray in California

    warpig883
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    Hi Ray, welcome to TFF. Sorry this has not been replied to. I am no expert but I will see what I can dig up.


    WyomingSwede
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    CC try www.gunspartcorp.com or www.brownells.com

    If neither of those have them you may have to have a gunsmith modify an existing part to fit. best I can do.

    swede
    Wyoming Swede

    warpig883
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    It was made by Savage and is the same as a Savage/Stevens 520.

    I found all the info from www.gunpartscorp.com/

    I tried to scan the parts breakdown list I have and it did not scan worth a damn. If you give me your address I will mail you a copy.

    The following parts are available from the above link.

    Stevens - 520 Item Number Description
    DRAWINGS, BREAKDOWNS and SCHEMATICS
    180590A Barrel
    329650 Barrel Lug - For All Series & Gauges On These Non-Takedown Models.
    593640 Barrel, 12 GA., 20", Blue - New, Cylinder Bore Choke, Factory Original, 2-3/4"Chamber, Front Sight Bead Included, New Condition.*
    593620 Barrel, 16 GA., 26", Blue - New, Factory Original, 2 3/4" Chamber, Front Sightbead Included, New Condition.*
    593630 Barrel, 16 GA., 28", Blue - New W/ Compensator & Adjustable Choke, Factory Original, 2 3/4" Chamber, Front Sight Bead Included, New Condition.*
    593590 Barrel, 20 GA., 26", Blue - New, 3/4" Chamber, Blued Steel, New Condition, Front Sight Bead Included.*
    593610 Barrel, 20 GA., 28", Blue - New W/ Compensator & Savage Super Choke - Factory Original, 2 3/4" Chamber, Front Sight Bead Included, New Condition.*
    593600 Barrel, 20 GA., 28", Blue - New, Factory Original, 2 3/4" Chambers, Front Sight Bead Included, New Condition.*
    180450A Breech Block
    180480A Breech Block Assembly, Complete, 12 GA.
    179860A Breech Block Retaining Screw*
    108900EE Buttplate
    148770A Buttplate Screw (2 Req'd)
    180710A Cartridge Stop Bushing Screw*
    180730A Cartridge Stop Bushing*
    133730A Cartridge Stop Screw (2 Req'd)
    180750A Cartridge Stop Screw, Front
    178600 Cartridge Stop*
    178550A Ejector Screw
    175970 Ejector*
    177210A Extractor Pin (2 Req'd)
    177280A Extractor Plunger, Right
    103800Q Extractor Spring, Left
    177320A Extractor Spring, Right
    177090A Extractor, Left
    177130A Extractor, Right
    177400A Firing Pin
    179010A Firing Pin Stop Pin
    578170A Forend, Plain, New Original
    146560Y Front Sight
    180510 Hammer Assembly, Complete
    177580A Hammer Pin
    180350A Hammer Roll
    180430A Hammer Roll Pin
    180770A Hammer Spacer Collar
    177600A Lifter
    177630A Lifter Assembly, Complete*
    177650A Lifter Pawl
    177660A Lifter Pawl Pin
    179080A Lifter Pawl Plunger
    178800A Lifter Pawl Spring
    180390A Lifter Screw (2 Req'd)
    177710A Lifter Spring
    177750A Locking Bolt
    800100-01AX Magazine Follower Spring, 12 GA.
    800100-03AB Magazine Follower Spring, 16 GA., 20 GA.
    118270D Magazine Follower, 12 GA.
    179190A Magazine Nut
    160460A Magazine Plug Screw
    177820-01 Magazine Plug, 12 GA.
    177820-02 Magazine Plug, 16 GA.*
    177820-03 Magazine Plug, 20 GA.
    179250A Magazine Tube
    177900 Mainspring
    179350A Mainspring Pin
    180380A Mainspring Screw*
    160500A Operating Handle Bar Collar, Front
    180610-01 Operating Handle Bar, 12 GA.
    180610-02 Operating Handle Bar, 16 GA.*
    180610-03 Operating Handle Bar, 20 GA.
    179320A Operating Handle, 12 GA.
    178020 Safety
    178120 Safety Plunger
    180130 Safety Plunger Spring*
    178210A Sear
    179350B Sear And Slide Lock Pin
    178220A Sear Spring
    179430A Slide
    179460A Slide Assembly
    179480A Slide Bridge
    179510A Slide Bridge Pin, Long
    179530A Slide Bridge Pin, Short
    180320A Slide Lock Assembly, Complete
    179560A Slide Lock Bridge
    179600A Slide Lock Bridge Rivet, Long
    178310A Slide Lock Bridge Rivet, Short
    179620A Slide Lock Release Button*
    179790A Slide Lock Release Spring
    180640A Slide Lock Release*
    180670A Slide Lock Release, Late Style*
    179810A Slide Lock Spring
    180250A Slide Lock*
    179640A Slide Plunger
    179660A Slide Plunger Pin
    179710A Slide Plunger Spring
    179890 Stock Tang Screw
    180880A Stock W/ Buttplate, Walnut - Newly Mfg Of American Walnut.Fits Model 520 & Ranger Marked Shotguns With A 3-1/4" Tang. Fully Finsihed,Minor Fitting Required.
    178330 Trigger
    177500 Trigger Guard
    178860A Trigger Guard Pin
    178920A Trigger Guard Screw
    178470 Trigger Pin
    178410 Trigger Spring





    kdub01
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    Above and beyond the call, Piggie -

    You're to be commended for going the extra mile for a fellow member!

    BTW, Welcome, CaliCollector - does the Cali mean "California"?
    "Keep Off The Ridgeline"

    warpig883
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    Twarn't nuthin kdub. I was just happy to actually have some info to help for once. Beat AD to tha punch


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    WarPig, thanks ALOT!!!! like Kdub said, above and beyond the call. Swede, thanks ALOT!!! for the suggestions. Kdub, yes Cali stands for Californicatingfornia, great state if you look at the land itself, but damned if the politics and laws dont just suck. i havent made it out yet, but am working on it. getting more and more tired of being told what i can and cant have every day. least i can still buy these old weapons, put alittle love into them, and keep using them for along time. next thing im afraid of though is some bs sniper rifle bill or an short barreled shotgun ban. WHAT NEXT??? ohh and did i forget that tax on ammo? cant remember who thought that one up. thank god that it never went thru. kind of actually waiting for california to say "its ok for you to have a PC weapon, but the ammo isnt pc, so you cant have that at all.. " thanks again for the help. and sorry for the rant. please dont hold California against me. i just live here...
    Ray in California

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    WarPig, the offer on those drawings is most appreciated, can i send you a couple bucks for your time and postage??
    and thank ya all for the welcome. Ray in California

    kdub01
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    Again, Welcome aboard, Ray -

    We won't hold it again' ya' for being a 'Fornie! My daughter lives in Sacramento and assures me its just the liberals living in and around LA and Diego that keep your politics gummed up. Come on over to Ariz. with me - lots of your neighbors have migrated here in the past few years, should be enough to keep you from being too homesick!
    "Keep Off The Ridgeline"

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    Kdub- funny you should mention arizona as a place to relocate to. i was talking to a guy in reno last month at the reno gunshow, one of the owners of Windsor Arms, guy by the name of Bruce.. hell of a nice guy, we spent quite awhile discussing the different "virtues" of living in Arizona, and to be honest it sounds like my kinda state. trying to get things squared up here as far as my finances and bills go, so i can get the hell outta dodge. working on it though. if i moved to arizona would that mean i need to buy my wife new towels, and try not to use these to clean my guns on??? =) Ray in California
    "Beware the man with only one gun, chances are he KNOWS how to use it."

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    You have mail Ray


    CaliCollector
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    Warpig- i got your email. THANK YOU!!!!!! now if theres someway i can return the favor, just let me know!!!!!!! i really appreciate this.

    also, im reblueing this shotgun at the moment. have had a hell of a time with the magazine tube, where the slide rubbed it , it was showing thru the cold blue in the white still, so i posted a topic on the tech page here, and i got a very usefull tip from Hadaway, after making sure that all the metal is sanded/polished/burnished evenly, HEAT the part before applying the cold blue to open the pores in the metal. it worked! no more streaks and white spots. i heated it the first time in the oven, just turned it on and checked it every minute or so, it got wam/hot in just a few minutes, took it out to the garage , degreased it again to be safe, and the blue stuck beautifully, after that ijust rinsed it in HOT HOT water to reheat the metal , and it worked beautifuly. id like to get your guys oppinion on my shotgun after im done. also something else i kinda discovered with cold blues. Outters didnt work to well for me, probly has to do with the composition of the old steel, Birchwood casey Perma Blue, wasnt working either, BUT Birchwood Casey Super Blue, ahh man that stuff is GREAT any of you ever use it?? i think it may be a good product for those problem projects. like to know what ya all think, and your own experiences.. Ray in California
    "Beware the man with only one gun, chances are he KNOWS how to use it."

    warpig883
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    I am trying to thing of that new stuff that is the rage. The guy who makes it has posted here. Seems like everyone who uses it swears by it.

    What is the name??????????????????



    Novum something or other?????????????


    CaliCollector
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    id be interested in knowing about the new stuff!!!!! my bleuing is going well, but i like most everyone, take alot of pride in what i do, and if i can do it better with another product,,, well you know
    "Beware the man with only one gun, chances are he KNOWS how to use it."

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    www.novumsolutions.com/default.html


    CaliCollector
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    is that Blue Wonder as good as the infomercial states it is?? $40.00 for the blueing and "developer alone, then $10.00 for the cleaner, thats $50.00 before shipping... has anyone here used it yet??? i dont mind spending the cash if it works better than what cold blue does, it looks impressive though, i give them that.
    oh and thank ya again WarPig.... 883 you ride an 883?? =)
    "Beware the man with only one gun, chances are he KNOWS how to use it."
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    Hello, I am new to using forums.
    I have a Ward's Western Field Model 30 SB562A. I read the prev posts and still have a couple of questions. Luckily I don't need any parts for the shotgun is in realy good shape.
    Wanted to know if anyone knows what years these were produced?
    Does the Ward's stand for Mongomerywards?
    Does anyone have a schematics of this Model? (could find one on Numrich)
    Any info on this would be gratly appreciated.
    Thanks
  3. Popeye

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    The Western Field Model 30 is a Stevens Model 520.

    Yup, Wards stands for Montgomery Wards
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    Disassembly of a Stevens Model 520 Shotgun

    1. Open the action and using the lengthwise ridges on the magazine tube as a grip, turn the tube clockwise (rear view) until it stops.

    2. When the tube is turned, the tube base at the receiver will move forward about 1/4 -1/2 inch, withdrawing its side lugs from their recesses in the front of the receiver.

    3. Move the barrel and magazine assembly straight down. It will be stopped by the bar of the action slide.

    4. Move the action slide all the way forward until it stops, drawing the bar completely out of the receiver. Then remove the barrel and magazine assembly downward.

    5. A single screw attaches the magazine end piece to a lug on the barrel. Taking out the screw allows removal of the end piece, magazine spring and the follower. The tube can then be unscrewed from the barrel unit and the fore-grip is taken off the tube toward the rear. Unscrewing the front cap will allow the wood to be removed from the action slide toward the front.

    6. Remove the stock mounting bolt.

    7. Take off the buttstock to the rear.

    8. Remove the cross screw at the bottom rear of the receiver.

    9. Drift out the cross pin at the lower edge of the receiver.

    10. Remove ther trigger group downward.

    11. Move the bolt forward in the receiver. Swing the carrier outward, move it inward off its pivot post and remove it.

    12. The carrier dog pivot is a riveted part and removal should only be for repair purposes. If the pivot pin is driven out, a plunger and spring will be released.

    13. Keep the bolt slide plate pushed rearward and push the bolt forward out of the receiver.

    14. In some guns it may be necessary to remove the bolt stop screw (at the front left of the receiver) before the bolt can be taken out. It depends on the degree of wear.

    If you need to take your shotgun down more than this, or have other disassembly questions, let me know. I'll post more here.
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