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help with the batf

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by bob1007, Aug 15, 2003.

  1. bob1007

    bob1007 New Member

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    CAN ANY ONE OUT THERE HELP WITH
    A PROMBLEM WE"RE HAVING WITH BATF?
    WE SENT THEM THEIR REQUIRED FORMS
    AND FINGER PRINTS TO HAVE "FIREARM
    PRIVIAGES RESTORED. [PERSON
    COMMITTED MINOR FELONY 10 YEARS
    AGO AND SERVED 120 DAYS IN JAIL]
    NOW THE BATF SAYS THEY DONT HAVE THE BUDGET FUNDS TO DO ANY PAPER
    WORK LIKE THIS.
    ANY INFO TO FIX THIS PERSONS RECORD
    WOULD BE A GOD SEND!!!
    THANKS BOB1007
  2. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Guest

    The latest I heard about this situation is that the courts have ordered BATF to restore rights to some and the BATF is ignoring those court orders, claiming they don't have funding to do so. Check in with the 2nd Amendment Foundation and RKBA.
    http://www.keepandbeararms.com

    Pops
  3. 1952Sniper

    1952Sniper New Member

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    That's a load of bull-puckey.

    How much funding could it possibly take? All it requires is a few minutes on a computer.
  4. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Guest

    You are beginning to see clearly, my friend. Be careful about advertising that fact. You could find yourself declared a danger to your country. [/sarcasm]

    :D

    Pops
  5. JohnK3

    JohnK3 New Member

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    The issue is that Congress, after much crying of "Wolf" about the "guns for felons" program declared that, yes, the ATF was responsible for providing relief, but that they were allowed to spend NO budget on said relief efforts, whatsoever.

    This has kept a gentleman, whose only "crime" was having a box of ammo under the seat of his car when he went to Mexico, from ever participating in shooting sports again. He was a successful gun-store owner and FFL holder who lost his rights to even own a gun, much less engage in his business, because of a law that even Mexico said was stupid and repealed because of his case. Everyone who has seriously looked at his case has said that he should have his rights restored, *including the ATF*, but because our wonderful Congress has forbidden the expenditure of any governement funds on relief investigations, he's forever out in the cold.
  6. bob1007

    bob1007 New Member

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    THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLYS!!!
    DO YOU THINK WE ARE WASTING
    TIME AND MONEY IF WE PUSH THE ISSUE
    WITH THE ALMIGHTY BATF???
    I FEEL SOME ONE HAS TO DO SOMETHING
    ABOUT THIS ABUSE BUT WE ARE NOT
    FUNDED AS WELL AS THEY ARE......
    ANY RECOURSES OUT THERE???
    THANKS AGAIN BOB
  7. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Guest

    This is an issue which should be pushed and pushed hard. If any government agency is allowed to ignore court orders without redress, it says the state of our freedom is ready for intensive care. In this case, the agency has been ORDERED by our hired hands (Congress) to ignore court orders.

    It is time for the big clubs to come out.

    Incidently, bob1007, shouting (ALL CAPS) is not necessary here on the forum. Thanks

    Pops
  8. 1952Sniper

    1952Sniper New Member

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    I would definitely not drop the issue. Sometimes if you push hard enough, they will do what you want just to get you to stop bugging them. Government workers are inherently lazy (don't anybody flame me for that, please), so you need to make it easier for them to just do what you're asking than to refuse.

    It's kinda like training a horse. They will always go to their comfort zone. If you want a horse to do something, make it uncomfortable for him to NOT do what you're asking. That way, he learns that he will be most comfortable when he's doing what you want. The BATF is the same way.

    You are well within your rights here. Press the issue.
  9. warpig

    warpig Guest

    Is there a gun friendly congressman in the state who can help?

    Welcome to TFF bob1007

    Can you please turn off your caps. It makes your posts hard to read.
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