Home defense AR: Kept w/ round in chamber?

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  1. Iron Eagle

    Iron Eagle Well-Known Member

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    YES IT WOULD! I would not use a 223 in my house. That bullet could go through both ends of my trailer pretty easily. I keep a 10-22 loaded and handy. No hanguns yet. I want them, but I can't do it on unemployment.
  2. jeffadaklin

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    I saw a show on the Sportsman channel l;ast week, they were talking about some of the new 223 rounds that wouldn't penetrate as far as a 9mm. Can't remember for sure, but think Hornady was one of the makers.
  3. CCHolderinMaine

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    my thought as well, if i have time for a long gun, i can chamber a round. if it's an as fast as i can go scenario, my 226 is what i'm going for.
  4. MSGT-R

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    Any sort of a home invasion attempt in my home will cause so much noise and ruckus that there would be plenty of time to chamber a round before the security door (or window) could be breached.
  5. gvw3

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    My guns are all locked up in the safe. Not loaded. I have lived in my home for almost 30 years with no problems. I also have my nephews running around and they are nuts.

    Lately I have been thinking of keeping my Beretta 92 in my nightstand. I live in a safe area with pd only 1/4 mile away but you never know.
  6. Appliancedude

    Appliancedude Well-Known Member

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    Yep thats how I was raised too. And its how I'm raising my kids. But at 3 and 5 the curiosity is still way to prevalent.
  7. pickenup

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    2 basic reasons I will not use a rifle for home defense. Over-penetration is the first. You can mitigate some of this with bullet selection.

    The second reason is lead. Or more specifically, how much lead can you throw with each round.

    I live in bear country. Have had one no more than 10 feet away, with nothing between him and I but air. Had them on my deck (pressing nose against window, staring at me eye to eye) eating out of the bird feeders, on my house, etc.

    Having encountered these critters on numerous occasions, I admit that it does get the adrenalin pumping.

    So, I use a 12 ga. for home defense. Don't worry much about over-penetration with one of these. This is for "home defense" I am not going to be shooting 100-300 yards down range. This is for inside the home, or maybe the distance of a "regular" yard.

    In answer to the OP question, there is one in the chamber, and safety is off. I do not want there to be ANY question whether the firearm is going to work, because of having to rack a round into the chamber, when my adrenalin is on overload. Not going to try to scare the bear, with the sound of pumping a round into the chamber either.

    Now considering a bear just broke into your house. You can fire 40-55-69 or 90 grain bullets at him, traveling at (+ or -) 3000 fps. Which is going to punch a little hole through him real fast, doing quite a bit of damage. Probably killing him, it's just that he doesn't know that he is dead yet.
    (I know, multiple holes, and bullet selection)

    Or you can throw 437.5 Grains of hollow point with EACH ROUND thrown at him, traveling at (+ or -) 1500 fps. LOTS of lead, moving a lot slower, tearing BIG chunks of brain and body parts off as it passes through.

    Which sounds more effective in convincing the bear that he has LOST the battle RIGHT NOW?

    Oh, and if it is not a bear, but happens to be a critter that walks upright, talks, and eats sitting at a table, that has entered my abode uninvited, well....the same reasons/tactics holds true.

    This isn't the big one that started to push his nose through the window, he broke the plastic storm window, but not the glass. This is just a small one looking at me through the window, after having destroyed a hummingbird feeder. Making a mess of the syrup, getting it all over himself and the window I might add.

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  8. jce07a

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    as the saying goes though "when seconds count, help is only minutes away" i live less than a mile from a police station. had a guy pull a gun on me when i asked him to not drive 85 on residential streets...took the police 20 minutes to show up.

    as for my guns, i keep one chambered in both glocks, and my bond arms snake slayer, all within reach of the bed. in the gun cabinet, my 870 has one chambered and two in the tube, my AR15 has a full mag in the well with the bolt locked back and dust cover closed but if i need it i can grab it, slap the bolt release and go. my keltec sub2000 also has a full mag ready to go.
    the two glocks have hornady critical defense/zombie max (cuz its the same thing and i found a couple places sell zombie max cheaper)
    snake slayer has winchester PDX1 410
    870 has 00buck
    AR is mixed, JHP and FMJ and i think there may be a tracer or two in there
    KT Sub 2000 has the same as the glocks

    i dont have kids though...just a big goofy great dane who surprised me one night by nearly taking my leg off when he didnt recognize me comin through the door...i guess thats what i get for changing clothes after work and getting a ride home. he didnt hear my truck and knew what i left the house in and didnt return in it lol
  9. aa1911

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    Which sounds more effective in convincing the bear that he has LOST the battle RIGHT NOW?

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    agreed, I would still feel good with 7.62 NATO but a 1 oz slug traveling 1400fps is going to have more 'knockdown' power, FWIW. Kinda like a .45acp vs 9mm debate...
  10. skullfr

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    I keep one pistol on nightstand and one under the bed in a metal box.That way I can roll out and have one in reach.I only have a small dog and when my grandaughter comes(18 month old) the door is shut.I was raised to respect them at a early age and tell my son to do the same as he was taught.He tells me he really charishes the memories of us shooting or hunting(really a noisy walk in the woods) and has become a real good shot.Now I am working on temper control since he carries.
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    I have a gun that I keep on the night stand, with a full mag. I do not keep a round in the chamber for extra safety, it is way to easy to chamber a round, and I'm good to go.

    i don't have any kids, but I do have grand children that come over once in a blue moon. On those occasions the guns are unloaded and put in the safe.
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    I keep my .40 S&W with a loaded clip not one in the pipe bedside and my wife also keeps her .380 auto on her side of the bed as well both loaded but not chambered.
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    Oh, and in my opinion a 12 gauge with 3inch OO buckshot can't be beat for home invasion protection.
  14. MSGT-R

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    The sound of racking a gun will make most prowlers piss their pants and run. If it doesn't, the next sound will be a round going "down range". I love doleing out that Oh-**** moment. :rolleyes:
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    if its not loaded and ready to roll... might as well have a rock..
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    I sprinkle guns around my house like fairy dust.
  17. Zane71464

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    Loaded and full mag,, I dont have children around (grown and moved away) but when they where around, safety first. With kids around, guns are either unloaded or locked up.
    But as of now, freakin' locked and loaded and ready for hell's furry(spelling)!:D
    (wouldnt wanna be me, breaking in my house!) :AR15firing: :lmao2:
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  18. HAGEN442

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    If we are talking 223 Caliber ARs : That is a lot of penatration within sheetrock wood and brick or normal building products.
    I hope your nearest neighbor is at least 300 yds from your house .
    My preference to handle a Outside Door or Window Situation is 10 Rounds of 12 Gauge 000 Buck.
    Within the House, 38s mostly with some scattered 9mm stuff
    Outside the House, 45ACP AR Carbine.( My nearest neighbor is 250 Yds backed up by
    2 Mile Deep Woods.
    I do not pretend to know it all, but I been around a while.
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  19. Zane71464

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    I live out in the country and not many neighbors close by. The AR is equipped with 700Lum. light and laser. I'd like to think my first shot or so (should it ever come to that) would work it's majic so to speak.
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