Hopkins & Allen revolver

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  1. thegouch

    thegouch New Member

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    update: thanks guys took a min to read most of the prior posts concerning this pistol. learned a lot. the one main question im now looking for is whats it worth. anybody have any info. as to what it may be worth? just for the sake of knowing of course im not looking to get rid of it. not that anybodys interested. wrong forum for that anyway.
  2. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    the 30th edition of the blue book list the H&A forehand model 1901 at 100%=$190 down to 60%=$75. the H&A Forehand Model 1901 should be treated as a black powder only model. they were offered between 1899 and 1906.
    bill
  3. foxesraven

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    What would be the value of a Forehand 1901. (stamped) hopkins & allen arms co. norwich, ct. u.s.a.(stamped) pistol that is hammerless? I just purchased one in excellent firing condition.
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    being hammerless adds about $10 to the value.

    bill
  5. william.hamill

    william.hamill New Member

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    Hello, do you know anything about a Hopkins & Allen XLL Double Action Revolver? I'm pretty sure it is a 7 shot cylinder, I think it might be .22 but I am not sure. Have you heard of this model?

    Thank you!
  6. b.goforth

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    the XL double action series were made in three frame sizes small 7 shot 22, medium 5 shot 32 S&W and large 5 shot 38 S&W and 6 shot 32 S&W or 32 H&H.

    these were made in two different models early one about 1880 to 1899, when the fire happened and later about 1905-1915 or so when the F&W double action series was renamed XL double action. as far as i can tell the parts are not interchangable between the original and the later production.

    in my opinion none of these revolvers should be fired with modern ammo.
    bill
  7. william.hamill

    william.hamill New Member

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    I took a closer look at the stamp on the top of the gun. I thought it said X.L.L., but it looks like it says X.L.I.
    Serial Number 8207 on the underneath portion of the barrel and 8207 with an (a) on the trigger frame. Does the serial number tell anything?
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    XL was also used on a single action spur trigger revolver. is this a single or double action revolver. single action series introduced about 1871 or so.

    since no one has done any research on H&A serial numbers having the serial number does not help.
    bill
  9. william.hamill

    william.hamill New Member

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    It says on it
    Hopkins & Allen MFG. Co.
    PAT. MAR.28.71 JAN.5.86
    X.L.I. Double Action
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    b.goforth New Member

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    made between 1886 and 1899 for black powder cartridge pressures.
    bill
  11. william.hamill

    william.hamill New Member

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    I definitely a .22, 7 shot cylinder. There is a loading gate missing from the right side, and 2 pins missing from the center of the gun under the barrel. They connect to a piece that is also missing on the left side of the gun in front of the cylinder. Do you know what they were for?
  12. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    would need to see a picture.
    bill
  13. redleg217

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    I have the same type of handgun. It is a full frame and full hammer. I cannot find the caliber as of yet on the gun. I found it out in the woods. The action seems to be working albeit the cylinder does not always stay in battery. I have been soaking it in penitrating oil trying to loosen up the cylinder pin. After rubbing on the gun with a cloth rag I have found the words "hawkins allen arms company" "forehand DA" on the other side any help with finding out what this gun is exactally would be great.

  14. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    manufactured by Hopkins & Allen between 1899 and at least 1906 (maybe later) . solid frame double action with a pull pin cylinder release.
    bill
  15. mortarman

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    ALCON: I have been trying to research a firearm found in an estate. It is only marked Napoleonwith a serial number and some nice engraving. The closest thing I have found is that it might possibly be a Hopkins and Allen No 3. I will try to get a picture or two loaded, but this is the first place i have been where somebody seemed to know anything about H&A.
  16. 45Auto

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    A picture of each side of your Napolion revolver would help.
  17. Leimann88

    Leimann88 New Member

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    My Husband I have the same pistol 1901, stamped with the info you guys have mentioned. It is missing the handle and in ruff shape. Where can we purchase parts ?:eek:
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    fuzebox40 Active Member

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    Here are some places you can try: Numrich Gun Parts, Bobs Gun parts, Wolff Gun Springs.

    Hopkins & Allen Safety Police Revolver.

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  19. RichardC1967

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    I have the a Hopkins and Allen Forehand Model 1901 in .32 caliber with 6 round cylinder,given to me by my dad.It was his dads before, and very rarely fired, it's in 100% excellent condition.My question is, does the cylinder supposed to spin freely to the right with the hammer forward, it locks to the left, and it also locks both directions when the trigger is pulled back or when the hammer is locked back(the cylinder lines up with the barrel when it is ready to be fired).I took it to a gunsmith and he check it out, and said this was normal(the free spinning to the right) and also determined I can fired .32 short or .32 long thru the gun, he said to stay away from .32 Auto and when I mentioned black powder or smokeless rounds he said it didn't matter that they should all be good to go.I'm just looking for some more opinions and also perhaps the best brand of ammo to use..also is this rimfire or centerfire?

    Thanks
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2012
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