How Lethal Is A .22 ???

Discussion in '.22-Rimfire Forum' started by RunningOnMT, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. gvw3

    gvw3 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Oct 16, 2011
    Chicago IL Area
    My Ruger 10-22 has 25 round mag's and I can fire all rounds in around 20 seconds. Who is going to live through that? I don't use a 22 for home defence but I am sure it would work if that's all you have.
  2. lilmule

    lilmule New Member

    Aug 24, 2012
    An atlatl while dangerous in the correct hands,and that would be like asking how many spoke Hopi in a crowd of 100,in say times square.Or like building a fire via friction at least move up to flint and steel.
    The 22 cal while small can be deadly,would a larger caliber be more so sure,but they may not have larger or can conceal much larger.Its the learning curve that can fit in anyones hands and not recoil much,and is better than a rock at most distances.
    I cc when clothing permits either a 32 acp and now my recent 9x18,weak side however still has a 22 lr in reach.In summer they are even primary,no wont stop a crazed water buffalo in my bath tub.Doubt if 8 9 x18 would either at least not quickly.
    You would have a death wish to fire on a grizzly that hadnt attacked you with either 10-22 lr or 8 9x18.If on the other hand its all one had as being eaten shoot on the way down.
    Assuming im near my night stand or truck, my 45 acp would feel better.
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    Jan 29, 2012
    It is better than a rock. poke enough holes and it weill die. It could be used to fight to get a bigger weapon
  4. montezumaz

    montezumaz Former Guest

  5. b1pig

    b1pig New Member

    Nov 8, 2012
    I have had a Marlin bolt action since I was a kid. I have another that I think is a Marlin, also a bolt action with magazine. I shot those rifles for years and, as stated several times, they "can" be lethal, based on shot placement.

    something else that stands out, though and is also mentioned. followup shots. I bought a Walther P22 a couple of years ago with the laser on it. The price was right and it fit my hand perfectly... and the intial sight aquisition is almost perfect for me. After I bought it, I took it out to do some practice, which is what I mainly bought it for. I carry a Glock 21 at work, and the .22 is a FAR cheaper round to buy and shoot to keep up on the mechanics.

    In short, I concur with previous statements about rapid fire. I set up a target at 20', which I figure to be the farthest distance to encounter a "target" in my house. I was able to RAPIDLY empty 11 rounds into an 8" circle and very consitently. It has become my first choice and I keep it full of Yellow Jacket ammunition. Whether it kills them or not... a person will rethink entering/remaining in my house with rounds going down range and with the aid of the laser, the point/shoot capability is pretty good.
  6. Ruger_Fan

    Ruger_Fan Former Guest

    Nov 23, 2012
    Plenty of armies use the 22 LR for training purposes, including Canada. No, it's not the weapon of choice for combat or self defense. The 5.56 isn't either. When I enlisted I was used to shooting hunting rifles. When I qualified with the 5.56 I thanked the lord it was peace time. I sure wouldn't want to face some guy who thinks dying is going to get him 21 virgins with a glorified 22 wmr.

    Weird things happen when someone is shot with any weapon. A plain clothes officers shot one of the North Hollywood bank robbers with a .380 in the shoulder. The FBI report concluded that if he had shot the robber with a FMJ instead of a HP he would have died. Every weapon has it's drawbacks, even the heavy hitters. Sometimes to get the job done it takes multiple shots with any gun. If you want to use extreme examples some people survived the bombing of Hiroshima.
  7. goofy

    goofy Well-Known Member

    Feb 7, 2011
    Or perhaps a well placed shot is what it takes.
  8. cpttango30

    cpttango30 Guest

    Case #1: Guy only has enough money for 1 pistol. He needs that pistol to small game hunt and protect himself and plink with.

    Case #2 Guy wants a gun to protech himself. Neither have shot much before buying their pistol. This guy buys Glock 17 with extra mags, holster and 100 rnd of sd ammo.

    Guy in case one shoots a lot has cheap ammo and can kill a squirrel at 50 yards with his 22lr. Guy two shoots 2 mags holds a 10" group for 75% of them the other 25% miss the target. Guy 1 can shoot 3" groups at fifty yards with his.

    I would much rather have a guy who only hits 75% of the time shooting at me vs a guy who can stack his shots in tight groups. I am sorry unless someone is hopped up on drugs and you shoot them 10 times and hit 8 to 10 times with a 22 at 21' they are not going to want to be in a firefight with you.

    I have taken squirrels, raccoon, skunks, groundhogs, ducks, coyotes, and Deer all with a 22lr.
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  9. soundguy

    soundguy Well-Known Member

    May 8, 2012
    yep.. i'll take a 22 vs running around with my arms up yelling 'help help' any day.. :)
  10. lilmule

    lilmule New Member

    Aug 24, 2012
    The report or sound of a 22 just might bring help,summertime shorts n t shirt I cc a 22 cal alone,as am built small it takes some more clothing to hide either my llama 32acp or my pa63.That is currently the largest I cc with a 9x18.And dont feel under gunned with my Llama,do somewhat with the 22 but only at times,considering cannot hide larger in summer attire thank full to have it then.
    Before you make fun of my 32 acp it is longer than 3.5 in barrel wise s and b 60 grain jhp=1200 fps =205 fpe more than the average lightweight short barreled 380.
    In a 22 use left over stuff that wouldnt function in my semi auto as its now a revolver 1 in snubby.,like round leadnose,or any of the remingtons stock jhp or covered brass fmj,functioned fine in the pt22 just left over.
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  11. GregD

    GregD Member

    Oct 12, 2009
    From 1972 to 2005, worked a bunch of homicides. Many many shot with .22 rimfire, short and long rifle and a few with magnums.
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2012
  12. CJ_56

    CJ_56 New Member

    Feb 24, 2012
    SE Ohio
    Are we back to this again? Yes no matter what else we can say it is possible to kill some bozo with a .22. It happens. But these guys with their magic 10/22's that put a million rounds in a bad guy before you can spit are just like using spitballs on a herd of elephants. Sure you might get lucky and put an eye out here or there but anyone who's paid attention knows that it takes a heck of a lot of rounds to actually kill a bad guy when you're not just taking pot shots at your husband while he's asleep. Murder is not what we are looking for here. It's self defense and unless your 10/22 has some magic gizmo that makes it fire 21 rounds at once then you're better off using a shotgun which btw will fire 21 rounds of .22 size bullets at once. Not only that but some of them will actually do it again after they fire the first time. I'm guessing I can get off more lead with my 12 ga. than I could with a 10/22. Maybe I'm wrong. It's just a guess that firing 21 rounds at once is better than that one at a time stuff.

    Oh yeah I should have mentioned that #4 buckshot pellets are slightly bigger than a .22 bullet. They are actually the size of a .24 caliber bullet. And they put 21 of them in ever shell. What were you guys saying about using a 10/22 again? Put 20 out of 25 rounds into the target? It's funny really that none of our soldiers could ever match that level of accuracy in a firefight. But it's pretty easy to get 21 buckshot into a bad guy all at once with a shotgun. And if you miss the first time you can always try again. My HD shotgun holds 7 shells +1 in the chamber. What is that, 168 .24 caliber pellets? Let's see you match that with those 10/22's. But it's all about shot placement of course. It seems to be mandatory that we say that in every post in these threads.
  13. PMK

    PMK Former Guest

    Dec 8, 2012
    Evansville, Indiana
    I'm no expert and I have not read all the posts. .22? Lethal? You bet!! Number 1 preferred caliber of hit men and some current governments. My friends laugh at me for my love of the .22. It will keep you eating if time gets tough. It is also capable of scrambling your brains like eggs. It is rare to survive a head shot from a .22 under 50 yards ( depending on grains and charge ). An extremely under rated caliber. In my humble opinion it is maybe the best all around caliber ever, especially with modern weapons and cartridges. If they don't drop when you hit them, odds are they will at least back up!! If defending yourself, you want to at least halt the offense. .22 will do that and likely a great deal more. .22 is deadly and demands respect.
  14. GunnyGene

    GunnyGene New Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Most folks will aim for center mass. Which means a good chance of hitting bone. With a .22 the crotch is a better target for the first couple shots as a stopper. Think about it. ;)
  15. PMK

    PMK Former Guest

    Dec 8, 2012
    Evansville, Indiana
    Thanks, GunnyGene. I had not actually looked at it that way before. Damn nice thinking! I was limiting my scope to the scenario of the skulking towel entering the yard while I was set up with my trusty bolt action Targetmaster. Thanks for the insight.
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