hunting dog help please.

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  1. remington1990

    remington1990 Member

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    i am looking for my first hunting dog and i have no clue where to start i have looked at a beagle for rabbits and a redbone for coon hunt. i have rabbit hunted along time ago and never coon hunted. i am kind of lost at what i want i just dont want to get a dog and never hunt with one. thanks
  2. Zhurh

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    I had coon hounds for twenty some years; actually enjoyed coon huntin more than you can imagine, spending nights in the woods with friends and our dogs. Only hunted rabbits with beagles a few times. We still keep plotts as house dogs, luv them hounds so much.

    Don't go buying some high priced coon hound, they are usually so driven, they will run off game if they say see deer in an apple orchard. Good pleasure hounds that are straight, never put a possum down a hole, and give ya years of fun are easily bought for 100-200 bucks. You can train a pup, but they all don't pan out as others do, and you'll be better served with an older well adjusted dog. Ya got to meet some of the local coon hunters to find one, and with prices so low, probably easy enough to pick up a decent dog. If ya buy a pup, when you go see the litter, take some hot dogs and throw pieces around in the tall grass, see which pup finds the most, always worked for me. Some pups are just natural born and others not as good.

    When I was a kid, I'd get $35 apiece for coon, skinned or unskinned as long as they were normal size. On a good night, I'd get 8-10 coon and I made more money as a kid coon huntin than I did working at a gas station, when I was 16 that is.

    I wanted to try bear hunting with dogs and maybe lynx too, but so rugged and no roads where we live. We got grizz & blk bear around the house; lynx & wolves too. Trouble is ya can't hunt dogs where we live, just feed the wolves. I had a buddy that shipped a couple bear hounds up to Alaska from Montana; ended up having both of them killed by wolves. So mine as house dogs and great at that; they keep everything goin along on the straight & narrow. Over the years, we had red bones, blk& tans, blueticks, now plotts. Plotts are the most sociable and like pets. All the rest, were outside dogs on chains. Just don't look for the best dog, look for the most straight that won't come back with a face full of quills, down their throat and all.

    My dogs nowadays here in Alaska.

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  3. remington1990

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    i dont know what type of dog i want. i would love a dog that i could hunt more then one animal with as far as coon and rabbits and other small game. i read about the black and tan hound and the german short hair pointer and the redbone.
  4. Zhurh

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    I've never seen a hound that you could hunt coon & rabbits with; maybe just me, ha ha. Half of it with coon huntin was enjoying nature and the woods and arguing with your best buddies about how their hounds stunk and yours was so much more superior, ect. I never wanted my dogs going after anything but coon. I did have one huntin buddy who had this redbone that would put possum down old woodchuck holes pretty regular. Quite the harr, as I hear my dog treein, and I'd hear the muffled barkin of his redbone and I'd always say: Not another possum down the hole. Old Duane would lite right up ready to fight me in the woods and I couldn't wait to get to the hole, shove a broken stick down there and come out with Possum hair and we'd all fall out in the woods howlin at Duane and his dog. Then we'd have to stop ole Duane from shootin that old redbone right there in the woods, it was priceless and I really miss coon huntin, but luv livin out here in the sticks in Alaska more.

    Now, I've been happily married 28 years. When I first met my wife, I'd make here go coon huntin with me when everybody else was busy. So one night it started raining and the dogs took off up this creekbed and went outta ear shot, but we finally heard them again and they were treein. So they had a coon up this big ole hemlock, about 100 foot high; couldn't see a thing in that evergreen. So I started up to find the coon and shake it out. I got up about 80 feet and tree was swayin back and forth and I couldn't find old Mister coon, then I saw him all balled up out on a branch, hidin. When I reached out to bat him down, he leaped and I told the wifey here he comes. She had 2 dogs on leashes right under the tree and mister coon landed on her shoulder, she screamed, dogs drug her about 10 foot until she let go and they treed coon up another tree. When I got down, I about crapped myself laughin, but she wasn't. Anyway, I luved coon huntin for years and surely wish there were coons here in Alaska.

    Get a coonhound, and have some fun, no joke.
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    You don't want a dog that will hunt more than one animal! A squirrel dog should hunt only squirrels. A coon dog should hunt coon, and a rabbit dog should hunt rabbits. Get a dog in the woods, and let it chase a deer, you probably have just lost a dog. Try coon hunting with a dog that likes to chase deer, and you wind up with no coon, a night wasted looking for the dog that you might not find.
  6. 76Highboy

    76Highboy Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Labs. They are all around smart, easy to train, will hunt most anything, will work all day, can withstand fridged temperatures, and are very loyal. That is why I own one.

    Oh ya, and they love to share your mid day snack with your,,, and then some. :D
  7. ozo

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    Z them pups ain't got enough hair for north of Fairbanks........:)

    A dog that runs deer is no longer worth anything else you want it for.....

    Get a Chihuahua.....it will not only be loyal.....it will alert you to bad guys..:D
    [and eat paper money-US cash]

    Or get a REAL 'hunter'......like my Elvis......
    he eats vampires and werewolves.....altho it may
    take him a bite or two.......:cool:

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  8. Zhurh

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    Ozo, problem is everything around here eats cats; they don't last long.

    Them plotts are just house dogs, but they can take the cold. The old male (brindled one) once took off, gone for two days and it never went above minus 35. I figured he was a goner with all the wolves we got around here but turned back up on porch 2 days later, tired but not frost bitten.

    It's just too remote where we live to hunt dogs or I'd be a bear & lynx huntin fool. No roads to get in front of them, a young boar can go 10 miles up and down mnts before sayin I've had enough. I can't chase them on foot in this rugged country; not like coon huntin back east.
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    i've had weimaraners and still to this day have one. and they are part of the hound family. I like the darker ones they call blue. My dogs are quail dogs but i've used them to track down lost game also (deer, Turkey) and they do. never had a problem. they have not run away. Good family dog to. good luck.
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    Yeah Z
    He's gotta be smart too , to last that long out and about where you live.
    The other one in the pic looks like a female....from her face....
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  11. CHW2021

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    For intelligence you have 3 choices in no order) labs, german shorthair and doberman. For a field dog, the shorthair is incredible.
  12. Zhurh

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    OZO, Ya that ole male wasn't just smarter than many people, he wanted to taste about everybody he didn't know very well. Wife and I taught in a couple Indian Villages over the years, and I really like the Indians but some have real alcohol problems, binge drinkers that won't stop until they run out of everything or get life flighted out half dead. So anyway, they'd be all drunked up 3 am, kicking my door in, lost, not knowing it wasn't their cabin. I'd toss them off the porch and run them off, but it was pretty regular, every couple nights at this one village. So after about 5-6 of these incidents, I told the village leaders nx time I was puttin the dog on whomever. Few nights later, several guys showed, and the dog couldn't wait to tear them up, chased them down road screaming their heads off. Nx day at school, none of the kids were talking, all mad at the no good White Boy teacher, ha ha. Then they said about how I should just shoot my man eater. I said: Now why in the world would I do that? That ole Plott is such a good judge of character. Left them kids speechless.
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    beagles for sniffing out anything very effective. i used to raise them.

    I personally never hunted with them. But i did see them in action for rabbit. Incredible i tell ya. They are also good for putting all the neighbors pets in the trees.

    I got one old girl left. Cant wait till she is dead so i can get me a real dog that might just listen to me. I cant stand stupid dogs or ones that dont listen. I just assume shoot them and start over.

    Funny how you can get one good dog and then the next 10 will annoy the heck out of ya. Eat the wires off your trailers lights, bark at your tires, dig holes, just stupid.
  14. stillfox

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    Carver,
    You've obviously never hunted with a Mountain Cur.
    I have two. One male 5yr old and one female 7.
    Both are outstanding squirrel and coon dogs.
    Sure you once in a while run into a daytime coon, but that's not a problem.
    After taking the coon, they will go right back to squirrel hunting.
    Take them out after dark and look out Mr. Ringtail.
    Both are also outstanding family dogs.
    Wouldn't give either of them up for any amount of money.
    Do a little research on the OMCBA mountain curs.
    They are also very good hog, cat and stock dogs.
    Old Yellar was a mountain cur.
    Not a Lab as many people think.
    remington 1990,
    Really well bred pups are available for $250-$300.
    Give Castlehill Mountain Curs a look see.
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  15. jstgsn

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    Sorry for the late response. Here's my humble opinion.
    A good hunting dog should also be a friend. Someone you enjoy being with, when hunting or when at home. For the past 16 years I had a yellow lab named Daisy. She was a companion, a trusted friend, a guardian, and a better hunter than I. Miss Daisy was obedient. If I said “sit” she sat. If I said “down” she laid down. If I said “stay” she stayed (until it became boring for her). For years if I sat out some cold beers on the ground and went into the next room and told her to “bring me a beer” she would bring me a can of beer. If I told her to come up beside me on the sofa, she would jump up and lay her head on my leg. She would get into the car on command, exit on command, and do whatever I told her to do. If a stranger came into the yard, she would let everyone know. She never bit anyone except one time she was eating a huge meaty bone and my son flopped down beside her, she wheeled and hit his nose with her tooth. It was his fault, but you could tell she was upset. She guarded my home, my vehicle, and my camp. But if a stranger came into the yard, she put up a great show, protecting our home.
    When hunting she was magnificent. If you picked up a gun, or dressed in hunting clothes, she was at the door and ready to go. Her excitement was contagious. When goose hunting she had to have a view of the field, by either standing beside you in the blind, or having her nose stuck through the wall of the blind. When birds were in the air, she was watching. Often she would see doves or other birds before we did, and went on alert. She would fetch a duck hundreds of yards from the blind. She would bring back geese, ducks, doves, squirrels, crows, anything we shot, she brought back. She loved every second afield. Once when dove hunting in hot weather she fetched until she almost passed out from the heat. I had to take her to the car and rub ice on her stomach to revive her. Then she wanted to hunt some more.
    She would scent out rabbits and squirrels. She wouldn’t point, but she would flush. Pheasants, quail, chucker, anything we hunted she would go after.
    And at the end of the day she would be anchored to my side. She was great with family and friends. The most loving animal I’ve ever met. She was my shadow, always by my side, in the kitchen (especially in the kitchen), in the living room, in the office, in the bathroom, she was there, watching over me, looking for a pat on the head or a snuggle. The same with friends and family, she was a lover, a true friend.
    If I had to run to the store, she went with me. If I went out to the garden, she went with me. When I went to bed, she was at the foot of the bed. And when I went hunting she was my partner.
    We lost Daisy last August. It was one of the most painful moments in my life. I just now thinking of going it again with a puppy.
    My choice is yellow lab.
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