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  1. Kestral

    Kestral Member

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    Can anyone I.D this item cal.9m mag capacity 9 rds s/n 88338

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  2. Nitro

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    You sure it's a 9mm? Sort of has that Japanese war time flavor
  3. navis128

    navis128 New Member

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    I don't know what it is, but I have to ask. Are those "quills" etched into it?
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    petesusn New Member

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    I agree. It does look very WW2 Japanese. Looks kinda like a Nambu.

    Edit: Naw, It's not Japanese.

    Edit again: I've looked all over and can't find anything as your pictures. I'm at a loss.
    Thought it could also have been Hungarian but now I don't know.
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  5. Jim K

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    It resembles both a Type 14 Japanese pistol and a Luger. I suspect it is a product of the famous Khyber pass makers or possibly of a Chinese workshop. That suspicion is based in part on the "serial number" (there certainly were not 88,888 of them) but both places tend to stamp on random numbers in imitation of Western guns.

    I don't think it is a home-made "zip gun" for criminal use, it is too well made for that; nor does it seem to be a dummy of some kind as too much trouble was expended when a wooden or plastic gun would do as well.

    Is it a locked breech? If 9mm Parabellum, it could hardly be blowback, but then it could be something never made to fire. If it is a locked breech, it seems to be an interesting design as the barrel does not look like it can move. Does it actually accept 9mm Parabellum? If not, can you determine what cartridge it does accept, if any?

    Jim
  6. RJay

    RJay Well-Known Member

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    You know, the lines also follow those of the Glisenti.
  7. Jim K

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    I don't think the serial is 88338; it looks like 88888. Probably the maker had only one number stamp, an 8, so that is the only number on the gun.

    Do you have the gun?

    Jim
  8. islenos

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    Looks to be a homemade knockoff of a Japanese Nambu.

    Afghan and Pakistan artisans have hand built rifles and pistols for a hundreds of years. I've seen a hand built replica of a SMLE and German P38.
  9. wpage

    wpage Active Member

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    Looks like a early Chinese knockoff off a luger.
  10. jondar

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    Glisenti was my first guess but I think all of them had the makers mark on them.
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