i dont know about religion but,,,

Discussion in 'Religious Discussions' started by dammitman, Aug 4, 2012.

  1. BlackEagle

    BlackEagle Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    When we talk about the problem of evil, what we're really talking about is things we don't like. But attributing our notions of right and wrong, good and bad, righteousness and evil to God is silly. God is what God is, and God does what God does. Jesus inverted the definition when a guy came up to him and said, "Good master, what must I do to inherit eternal life?"; Jesus' reaction was, "I wonder why you call ME, 'good', for no man is 'good', only God is 'good'." In his definition, we can't be the arbiters of what's good and evil at all - but whatever God does is "good".

    I identify with those poor bastards incinerated in Pompeii when Vesuvius covered the city with hot lava. What happened to them was, "evil", by my lights. So why would God do such a thing? Because my opinions don't matter.

    So, you want to know about the drought and other world crises? Take a leisurely tour through the Revelation (also known by the synonymous term, "apocalypse"). Read and re-read it, because it's tough going in places. But the information is there. Like reading the news before it happens.
  3. dammitman

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    now that was kinda cold and really not very Christian like!
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    If you are looking for a "turn the other cheek" sort of thing, you won't find it here.

    If you have read this forum header you probably know what's about to happen next.

    Walk softly.
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    Since the beginning of time, more people have been killed, tortured. enslaved, what have you, in the name of god then for any other reason you can possibly name. What, you're a muslim? i will kill you because you do not believe in Jesus. What, you're a Christian? I will kill you because you don't believe in allah.
    Every body seems to believe that all of the deaths are not a part of god's will or plan. Years ago i developed a belief that helped me cope with the death of people I knew, family and friends. I developed the belief that at the moment of your journey in life, whether it is at conception or birth, god starts a clock or timer that has so many years, months, days, hours and seconds recorded on it. When that clock/timer winds down to zero your time on this earth is over, no matter who you are or what you believe. In short, no one dies before their time.
    What you believe will determine your fate in the after life. I believe in god. I believe in Jesus. I do not believe that god or Jesus gives a tinkers what particular religion I practice. None of them are right(The One True Path To Salvation) nor or any of them wrong(The Flaming path To Damnation). They are rather, in my mind a way for people of similar beliefs to prove to themselves that they are right and to show others how devout they are.
    My belief is mine and I have no need to prove or defend that belief. Only god can judge my belief.
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    please do note the wink , its meant to be sarcastic of your dismissal

    and why sarcastic , its obvious you came for a argument , you want to put the god botherers in their place for some reason or you have a grudge against God or something ..

    so you come to Religous discussions , start in on God and we respond and you say thats all you got ?

    what we got is a total rebuttal of your false idea's and subjective tone because your premise is wrong

    God dont start wars ,
    He dont start us living in huge slums so simple illness, becomes deadly in a mass way ,
    He dont create the greed or hate that make some leaders seek war and conquest

    He did not make you come here to rant .. thats all folks alone ..

    and why my sarcasm is also we get a lot like you

    your superiour arguments that mean nothing as the basic premise is wrong

    you have two parts to you

    i wish the part that tells you you goofed was listened to a bit more as thats the side that will stop wars stop illness spreading stop a lot of crap in the world

    we just need all folks to get their and say

    Hey God , its all too much , you Take Over ..

    read His book

    realise who and what He is , and what he aint as thats something many folks dont get

    he aint gonna stop you from getting ill , but he does teach us the basics to prevent us falling ill

    if we listen and follow thing work out in our favour in the long run

    beats going around looking to start a argument to make someone feel bad so you can feel better about yourself ,, that i dont get at all

    but cheers anyway
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    oh and as for it not being Christian .. hmm then it also cant be too polite then eh?? get the point ??

    as for turning the other cheek , that was the polite responce to the loaded question that dissed the premise you posed

    the tossing it back as not worth your response was all you

    as that showed just how rediculous you are , you just want a fight, and you aint getting one

    its now just a show for the rest of us on how petty some folks can get
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  8. Double D

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    Uhh huh, lets go to the religious forum and see if we can ruffle some feathers...maybe we can even make someone mad enough to call us a name and then we can question their christianity....why else post in this area of the forum? Mockery, of course! Dont go whining when you cant log in any more.
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    D just wait for the come back he'll have , it'll bust a gut on ya ... watch
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    The thing is you are blaming the wrong one.Satan is a powerful force and corrupts man.He preys on mans weakness and offers riches and gold.God gave you free will to choose and man always stumbles and falls for greed and power.The evil of the world is not Gods fault but mans weakness and desire to follow Satan.But God will deliver you if you seek Him.The path of evil is much easier road than a righteous path.The evil of the world will pay for thier sins no doubt about it.I pray you seek the Truth and find salvation.
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    I wish I was as eloquent as you guys.
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    Satan's only difference is he cant create so he must work through people

    you do ok Skull , we've just had lot's of practice
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    Of course they blame God instead of blaming the devil. Its called being lost and confused and blinded by the enemy. You cannot serve two masters.
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    Thank you, Jack
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    Your Most Welcome

    and Welcome to the Forum !!

    Hey Zhurh ! you spreading the word up that way ?

    Zhurhs another Alaskan , we be getting a few now eh ..
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    Superredhawk, welcome to the forum from across the pond. If you've looked around, you'll see not all discussions are like this one. Most people here care about each other and help each other out whatever way they can. It's a great place to be. Put your feet up and enjoy.
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    welcome aboard.It is a great site.
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    Father God is far more than we could ever understand. He said that His thoughts were not our thoughts, nor were His ways our ways. He thought about us enough to send His Son to die for us. Knowing some of the folks I have met along the way, I wouldn't have done it. He is God all by Himself, and He does not need our help. All He wants from us is everything. He does not demand it, He just offers so much more than we could ever accomplish by ourselves. Living for Him is a choice, and a great one at that.
    One thing that everyone might miss about the story of the rich young ruler is what was really the issue. His money meant everything to him. jesus saw his heart, and knew what was wrong. When the ruler heard what was missing, he could not stand it. In other words, his priorities were all wrong. Sinc he was unwilling to make the correction, he left sorrowful. Some things never change. The same problem is alive and well today. it is known as greed.
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    You really have that one wrong.
    LOTS of people very much like the idea of adultry and lust. Many enjoy drooling over things they do not own. The love of money is widespread. When wronged, most of us feel the pleasant heat of rage rise up within us as our id tells us to seek REVENGE. Some cases are bad enough that folks entertain the pleasant thought of ending the life of the perpetrator. Almost everyone has, at some time or other, thought how pleasant it would be to tell their parents to go jump in the lake.

    ALL of these are evil, but they are certainly not unpleasant to the natural man! Things like this which we ENJOY are often the very things that God has called evil.
    And yes, it was God not man that did this.
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    If you read the bible, Mark 13 or Matthew 24, you would know that Christ said there was a great tribulation coming to the world right before His return

    It is going to be horrible. There will be countries fighting over food, mass starvation, and many other calamities.

    And for the record: don't blame God for what the Nazis did to the Jews. Humans have free will and many of them use it horribly. God did not instruct the Nazis to be animals.
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