I have made a terrible mistake.

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  1. crockett007

    crockett007 New Member

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    I may be a dinosaur, but my butt still burns when Ruger is brought up. Some of us old timers remember what Bill Ruger did concerning Hi-cap mags back in the clinton days. I don't care for Ruger...period.

    The Mini-14 is overpriced and over rated (yes, I have owned several). It is basically a 150 yard semi auto rifle thatis neither particularly accurate, reliable nor special. The magazine situation is regrettable, but true.

    We all have made mistakes when buying firearms, it is a tough way to learn, but learn you will. Trade the thing and get a decent AR. Mags are plentiful, accuracy is ten times better, and AM parts are everywhere.

    regards
  2. cycloneman

    cycloneman Well-Known Member

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    If you sell the gun your probably gona take a loss on it. Look at it this way the loss you would take is the difference you would pay in mags.

    Ruger has its place in a collection. it will shoot whatever you put in it. suck it up and buy the mags. keep the rilfe, you will be glad you have it when shtf. start saving money for an ar. mags and rifles are no good without pleanty of ammo. if your complaining about mags you dont have enough ammo either.
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  3. nmckenzie

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    A few years ago I bought a Ruger Target Model Ranch Rifle - the one with the laminated stock, adjustable harmonic dampener, and so forth. I'm used to shooting a Garand, M1A and HBAR, so the lack of sling swivels was a bother, though not one which couldn't be addressed. Began to think in terms of installing a bipod, which led me to consider additional higher capacity mags. The ONLY mags that seemed to function with any degree of reliability were the five rounder it came with, and a new in the box Ruger mfg. 30 rounder stamped LE Only which I'd stashed a while back. Within a couple of months I'd traded the rifle off for one of USRA's Winchester 1895s in 30'06.
  4. Unknown

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    i did buy this as a SHTF rifle. .223/5.56, rugged and heavy, solidly built. the mag situation is all i have to say bad about it. and im sorry, but again im not buying a DGI AR, and 1500 for a single black tool is asking way to damn much. id rather blow that all on a decked out .300WM bolt action, or a frickin lathe...drill press, probably a drill press.

    i got word that bass pro sells factory 30rnd'ers for around 30 bucks, i was on my way to houston tomorrow anyway. due to what everyone has told me i might as well buckle down and get it. if i have to, i can make that a selling point in the future that it has extra mags. we will see how it goes.

    ...1500 for a "reliable" rifle, pffft, i traded a rusted shotgun for my AK, and i havent been able to make that thing jam, and boy have i tried.
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  5. jim brady

    jim brady Well-Known Member

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    Holy Cow!! A Mini Ranch I bought for my brother years ago is still going strong. I gave him the rifle and 5 or 6 factory mags with it, and he never reported any problems. Unless Ruger quality has deteriorated that much it should be a great SHTF choice. Should shoot as hard, fast and accurately as most off the rack ARs in the same caliber.

    You can build most any rifle into a 'tack-driver' - I'm talking off-the-shelf mass produced short barreled ARs. I have 3 and they shoot just fine, but are not target guns. They are short range (under 200 yards) defensive weapons.

    2 pennies more - I've bought aftermarket mags for my M1A and M1 Carbines that were absolute trash. Ended up saving the springs and followers for spares and tossing the rest. I'm a firm believer in having at least 6 hi-quality mags for any semi-auto I own.
  6. LDBennett

    LDBennett Well-Known Member

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    Here's a rule I follow for all my semi-auto magazine fed gun, pistols and rifles:

    FACTORY MAGAZINES ONLY

    Some times that is expensive but it completely eliminates the risk of getting crummy non-working magazines as I have gotten before this rule was in place, that got immediately got trashed.

    For those who want a higher than 10 count magazine, that's tough here in California as none can be sold with more than a 10 round capacity. Some legal eagle here told some sellers at gun shows here in CA that they could sell magazine repair kits for older grandfathered larger capacity mags. So they disassemble a larger capacity magazine out of state and send it to CA as magazine parts which they sell in a package as a disassembled magazine. Works for me!

    LDBennett
  7. Snakedriver

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    When I bought my 183-series Mini-14 back in mid-1982 I paid $280 OTD with one Ruger 20-round mag thrown in. Since then I've been happy with it in that it never fails to shoot and it will digest any ammo & accept any mag. I choose to use. Over the years I've collected about 10 metal 30-rounders that all seem to work fine in my gun. They snap-in and lock in place just like the Ruger factory items.

    I did put a Mo-Rod on the gun to quell the tendency to have barrel whip and wandering POI when the gun warms up under rapid fire. With the Mo-Rod in place the gun is a consistent & reliable 2" shooter at 100 yards now. The one big downfall of the gun is that I haven't found a reliable way to mount a scope on the old model Mini, so I'm stuck with using only iron sights. It's more challenging for my old eyes.

    I got a very nice AR-15 last fall that is very accurate and reliable. Excellent modern metal 30-rnd mag's. with magpul follower are redily available for under $10 and mounting a rock solid scope on the flat top receiver is a piece of cake. I have over $1,000 in the AR, as outfitted, though.

    I still love shooting my Mini-14, but the AR is a REAL battle rifle.
  8. firefighter1635

    firefighter1635 Well-Known Member

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    Don't give up on the Mini- 14. I had one many moons ago but sold it and wish I didn't. It shot anything I fed it and I had many 30 round mags for it and never had a problem. That was 12 years ago i'd say, maybe their quality isn't what it used to be though.
  9. denny 714

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    Jim B. is totally right on the money,...save up your pennies until you have 5 or 6 Factory Mags. and then you are set for life.....Hey you could be talking about a pre-war Walther PPK RZM, and to shell out $300.00 to $350.00 for a finger ext. magazine will take your breath away and some trips to the marriage counsellor,,,,Hahahaha...(just kidding)

    Denny G.
  10. ozo

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    Throw it in a dumpster....
    piece-o-junk.....

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  11. RunningOnMT

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    I'd love to have a Mini 14. Maybe not tack drivers but I really like the style of rifle...that is if it has the wood stock. They had a special addition out about a year ago I wish I had snatched up; wood stock, longer (20") blued barrel with flash suppressor, I believe it came with a thirty round mag but it might have been twenty. Was a tad bit too pricy for my budget at the time. Anyway, if I had one I'd go ahead and stock up on Ruger mags, even if only one a month. Then enjoy.
  12. RunningOnMT

    RunningOnMT New Member

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    LD, would it be a major felony for someone in a state with no restrictions to buy hi cap mags for someone in Cal? Is there any law for private individuals re shipping mags? I know businesses wont do it, but that goes into a whole trade thing that I'm not sure applies to individuals.
  13. GunHugger

    GunHugger Well-Known Member

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    Why?

    In one word...PRICE.

    It's a $400 gun.

    For what a Mini costs today you can buy a entry level AR, a million more accessories, GI surplus 30 round mags for $10 or far better PMags for $14. AND far more accurate.

    I have owned 2 Mini's and they weren't very accurate at all. I wouldn't have enough faith with one to shoot at a deer past 100 yards for fear of a poorly placed shot.

    They are over priced IMO.
  14. ozo

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    All the experts always cut down the guns they don't like.
    I say that in a sarcastic way.....because it's the truth.
    I get so sick of the way things are said...not
    what is said.....
    Everybody that is somebody important acts and speaks this way,
    and you better listen to them...because they know....
    [I don't know why I take the time to express...]
    One day soon, I am gonna give up...it is futile.
    I thought the thread was about the magazine...aftermarket.....
    what a thread drift !!!! :(:(
  15. ozo

    ozo Well-Known Member

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    The most common cause
    of a mis-feed issue
    with a Mini-14

    Page10 in Mini-14 Owner's Manual

    and......each[all, every] aftermarket
    magazine I have purchased came with
    a heads-up....this one from CTD.....

    insert the magazine properly
    or you may have a feed issue.

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