I have no words for this one

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by jack404, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. jack404

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    Mali Islamists 'buying child soldiers, imposing Sharia'

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19905905

    Christians imposing sharia law ??

    UN Official: Islamists in Mali Are Targeting Women

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/official-islamists-mali-targeting-women-17448626#.UHdTT2_A-8C


    or

    http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.u...on-term-imam/story-17061920-detail/story.html

    A MUSLIM leader has successfully appealed against a potentially life-long jail term he was handed for raping a boy and sexually abusing another.

    Mohammed Hanif Khan, pictured, was an imam at Tunstall Mosque when allegations came to light that he had carried out sex attacks on the two boys, aged 12 and 15.

    Khan, who moved to Bardsley Close, Ellesmere Port, was jailed indefinitely for public protection – which is almost identical to a life term – at Nottingham Crown Court on March 18 last year, after being convicted of two counts of rape and one of sexual activity with a child.

    Yesterday, Lord Justice Aikens, Mr Justice Holroyde and Judge Peter Rook QC, sitting at London's Criminal Appeal Court, quashed that sentence, replacing it with a 16-year jail term, plus a five-year extended period of licence.

    The ruling means that Khan will serve eight years behind bars, followed by another 13 years on licence in the community. During that time, he will be closely supervised and could be recalled to prison if he commits another offence.

    Tunisian Children Recite Al-Qaeda Song Extolling 9/11: 'Our Terror Is Blessed'

    Following are excerpts from footage of Tunisian children reciting an Al-Qaeda song, which was posted on the Internet on June 28, 2012.


    do we remember the previous version where the boy got the words wrong and was beaten to death on video ??

    this is islam

    show me one Christian church that says anything like this is ok

    i'll show you where in islam it is commanded
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    2012.10.10 (Riyom, Nigeria) - Three children and their mother are among over a dozen Christians are slaughtered during a Muslim raid on their village.
    2012.10.10 (Dallyam, Nigeria) - Muslim terrorists shoot four members of a Christian family at close range.
    2012.10.09 (Harasta, Syria) - At least forty people are killed in two massive al-Nusra suicide blasts.
    2012.10.09 (Kano, Nigeria) - Devout Muslims kill two cops guarding health workers administering polio immunizations to children following a rumor at their mosque.
    2012.10.09 (Tarin Kot, Afghanistan) - A cleric is assassinated by Religion of Peace rivals.
  3. Double D

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    Keep in mind that not one christian has ever said that about eternity. Not one. They didnt make it up. They only repeated what the living God said. Its not up to us. One thing is for certain....Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is lord. Not everyone knows or realizes that yet. That too is not any of our doing so dont blame us. We are only sharing the word as we know it. That is in no way bashing anyone. Its ok if you dont believe it. Its only out of love that we would want you to know. Sure would hate for you to not know. :)
  4. TheGunClinger

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    This thread has de-evolved into a "Religious Discussions" thread. Perhaps it should be moved there. JMHO.
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    I don't think so. This needs to be here for all to see
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    True ,

    but then again this is Your nation

    Muslims attack Christians in the USA


    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=393_1349931097


    25 minutes of islam attacking Christians , THE USA , and stating they will rule the USA and the police refusing to do anything evern when they stoned Christians ..
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    oh and to say the christian Church says its ok to do bad things

    A 53-YEAR-old church deacon has been arrested over an alleged assault on a five-year-old boy in a Bankstown shopping centre.

    Police arrested the man at a Greenacre shopping centre about 6pm yesterday after he allegedly touched a five-year-old boy inappropriately.

    The man was refused bail and will appear in Bankstown Local Court today charged with aggravated indecent assault of a five-year-old child.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/deacon-charged-over-indecent-assault/story-fndo4bst-1226494268120

    his regular lawyer who is a part of the same church refused to assist him and so is the church .

    now you where saying ?? yes i know it does get covered up and those who do are as bad as the offenders and should be toossed out and if the antendee's of these churches could prove that after so many false starts , then i think they would

    no matter the "brand' as thats Christian too

    dont get caught up in brands and labels

    Hitler was supposed to be Christian too as is obozo .

    i dont count either as and thats from their deeds , as thats how The Good Book tells me to know whats really Christian or not

    Kony aint Christian ( leader of the Lords army in africa ) cause he paints a cross on himself to ward off bullets

    he's a opportunist spirutalist who mixes islam with Christianity when it suits him but his core is black magic and thats nothing to do with any real Faith i know about ..

    and i'm damn sure folks like the westbought baptists and such touting death to homo's have been working in a special place in hell for themselves by their actions and deeds too

    beware what folks call em selves , many have no right to that title but tarnish all the rest of the folks

    then folks like Maine04657 use that as facts that Christians are evil

    next we'll be told how the crusades where all our fault ..
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  8. targetacqmgt

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    In some jurisdictions (I understand) AFTER they get released (if the survive imprisonment) they are subject to "civil commitment". WHich is a jail like mental hospital. Once there the offender generally is never released. Which is a good thing.

    The problem with some jurisdictions you can get jail time and or on an public offender list for p*ssing in the street. SONORA federal tier one offense good for 10-15 years on the list-AND the possibllity of being murdered by some vigilanty. Not everybody on these lists are scum.
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    Well, American muslim teens certainly are vulgar as any other, arent they?
    We all know that had that been a group protesting a KKK rally that the cops would have been all over it when the skinheads starting throwing things. Or vice versa.
    Or if they were OWS, for that matter. ANY group BUT Christians.
    And frankly, many Americans are part of the problem because Christian bashing has become politically acceptable to the Left, as though that's going to ingratiate them with the Muslims.
    Only an idiot would think they can ingratiate themselves to the muslims, even some muslims aren't accepted, much less an infidel.
    Some comments on there observed that all the Christians had to do was to leave, completely ignoring the Constitutional right of peaceably assembling.
    Had it been a LGBT rally, would the Police have reacted differently? And protected that right of assembly? You can bet they would have!
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  10. Maine04657

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    Really? The book you speak of was written by men and vigorously edited by the same church leaders in the vadician who hide and covered up the child molestation and who knows what else.

    Read a few books on history and see the death and destruction done all over the world by those who believe. Even here in the USA the bible says that ( err a GOD says ) owning slaves is ok. It says many places that women are below men I can give you many chapter and verse quotes if you like on many of these topics. How do you square what the bible says with how Americans live?

    Again not bashing simply point out that the vast majority of hose who say they believe in the bible as being the word of god sure ignore allot of what it actually says.

    Of course along that same course many muslims out there do not think all non muslims should be killed. Not all jews are hasidic. Funny how those who follow the books to the letter are thought of as the fringe or radicals by those who follow the same book.


    In the end I do not care who you worship or not. Those around me in my circle are of several religions. However they are friends due to who they are and how they act towards others.
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    You certainly are determined, aren't you? I must admit, it looks as though DD was right, You've latched on and simply won't let go. How are you acting now? It's bordering on rude.
    Your circle of religious friends must be tolerent indeed, or perhaps your not as insistant with them as you are here, with the sheild of the computer.
    You ARE bashing, plain and simple, and for one who claims logic as his 'religion', your illogical comparisons are annoying to those of us who honestly are logical.
    Christianity, like many other religions, has a past that's not all that honorable.
    That's logical, it's the human condition.
    But to deny that Christianity and Christians have not 'matured' and gone beyond that is to ignore the current deeds of Christians worldwide, such as Childfund (where is the Islamic equivelent?) and dozens of other organizations.
    There are damn few NON Christian groups or organizations doing these things, and these Christians groups have saved tens of thousands of children worldwide.
    Where are the Muslims in this?
    Where are the atheists?
    Stop gibbering about the past, NO people or peoples have an untarnished past.
    And to base ALL your 'logic' of Christians on the past misdeeds of SOME and hold that to the many is NO different than guilt by association, an illogical and bias trait.
    Yet your very silent on the CURRENT misdeeds of the muslims, I couldn't help but notice that. Have you even read the MANY posts that jack 404 has put up?
    Tell you what, let's be fair, and you find and post ALL the news on Christian misdeeds, sanctioned by a Christian group or Church.
    We have no control or affiliation with past deeds by other Christians, just as you have none on your forebears.
    It is illogical to denounce any religious group for historical events before their time if they hold no claim to it. It's no different than holding the current German people responsible for Hitlers Third Reich. It's just rude.
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    Sir i live with two fatwa's ( religious orders that i must be killed for islam )

    i'm sure you'll say i exaggerate but it wasn't me who laid them out and issued them under the banner of the grand mufti ,

    but you'll defend that ..

    christian org's aint had that for a good few hundred years and the last lots was orcestrated by greedy business types , professed athiests who found religion and persecuting folks a good way to get land cheap





    and your right islam has killed 300+ million ,

    with the various forms of socialism running a close second

    the mongals run 3rd

    Christians about 8th down the list but mainly killing moslems and not in the holy lands but in spain and frances and the italian coasts when islam raided there constantly , but i forget they call that the time of peace and of andaluce etc etc lying pieces of yaddah crap

    so answer the question ( now for the third time )

    what church where

    i mean real one not some fruit loop cult that calls its self Christian
    has ever once supported the same barbaric evils of islam ?

    in the past 5 centuries please ....

    answer or piss off

    discussions are two sided


    Bunkum .. ( also known as BS ) you come in here told us all islam aint at fault and that christianity is eveil and promiotes pedifilia and covers it up as doctrine ... thats bloody offencive .. then you state we are fools and only men wrote the Good Book and not devinly inspired



    but ok according to you .. thats not offencive to you , but it is to me sonny and many more , but thats ojk as your only insulting Christians eh ?

    i bet you dont chop in to them as you have done here

    show them your posts and them ask em what they think

    i doubt you will unless your several relions are sunn i and shia islam then you'll be a hero eh ??
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  13. Appliancedude

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    DO YOU SEE IT NOW? I tried to warn him. You accused me of censoring. I warned him. DD tried to expand on my warning. If only he had listened to me. BUT NOOOOOO. Don't listen to Appliancedude.:D I knew this thread wasn't gonna be good if he kept pushing that belief. Sorry Maine, shoulda listened. Here I am trying to help. Keep everyone friendly, give a friendly warning. Oh well. Why does no one ever listen to me?:rolleyes:
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    as for modern Christian slaves , its now called indentureship and the same deal with slave then exists now , end of contract your paid and free to go

    my deal with the army was similar

    but we dont make holes in folks ears if they are good workers or have performed well nowdays ( earmarked comes from this Christian slavery as do modern trade apprenticeships , how about YOU research your topic before you fall on your face again eh?)

    please read the avarentari rules on slaves cases ( early christian rome documents after the christian rules where brought in and Rome stopped taking slaves as captives but as hired staff )

    you'll note 1100+ slave owners as they are known punished by flogging and even death and their lands given as compensation when the owners broke the laws .. yes they could whip them if they ran away or refused to do what there contract said , bloody hard times eh , the local lord in japan would test his new sword by riding through the markets testing it on shoppers , you screaming about feudal japan too ??

    Christian slavery is a name , its a work contract for a set time with set rules and all human rights remain with the "slave"

    sheeesh these idiots who come in here half baked
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  15. Double D

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    It seem as though you folks have come to battle with an unarmed opponent. Let it be known that the case has been made and settled and that anything more will be nothing less than a desperate plea. I must say, as usual, the case has been brilliantly presented. Bravo.
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    Don't break your arm trying to pat yourself on the back there now, you need it for shooting. :)
    Perhaps I would have been more attentive if you had come across in a more even fashion, without the use of "crap". There are those who would NOT take your use of that word and in that manner as "friendly".
    That's one of the problems of posts in general, inflection and tone are lost, and so often is the intent.
    I gave the man the benefit of the doubt, THEN he removed the doubt.
    I've seen this before, and I've also seen people quick on the draw when someone expressed their opinion and it was taken incorrectly, or came across so, and the cry for banning and censorship goes out BEFORE all the info is known.
    I was just being even handed, nothing more or less.
    At my age and with my experience I don't need any schooling about or on people, I've just learned to NOT jump to conclusions, and that's it better to allow someone to hang themselves then to be perceived as the hangman.
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    Could not have said it better! And I was goin to go just where you went with his logic!
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    LMAO, I guess I forgot to insert smiley. And frankly I thought "crap" was toned down. I really want to put BS. :D I guess at my age I still jump to conclusions. Thankfully they are mostly correct:D And your right my arm is really starting to hurt, its hard to pat yourself on the back:D

    See lots of smileys in this post.:D
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    Thanx for the smileys, and in the future, I will pay more heed to your advise. :)
    Oh, and DD's too.
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