I.J. Double Action Model 1900

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  1. deerhuntr107

    deerhuntr107 New Member

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    Well, Im new here. I really hope this is the right forum for this. I was going to post it in the Ask the pros, but that, from what I can tell, is for gun value. Im not looking to sell, just information.

    My uncle recieved this gun from my great grandfather through his will and from what I was told, used to use it in the coal mine to shoot snakes. Well, the marks on it are on the top of the pistol, I.J. Double Action with stars at the beginning and end, and on the other side of the sight grove is another star, then Model 1900 Fitchburg.Mass and U.S.A. under the place. It has the owl head grips. When I removed the grip, the serial number does not have a letter, only numbers. But under the trigger guard, the same serial number has an A before the numbers. The trigger guard is blued but the rest of the gun is nickle. It has the pull pin cylinder release. Its a .22cal 7 shot revolver. Im just looking for some general information on this gun including a better estimate of its age. The groves on the back of the cylinder are worn so when the hammer is back, the cylinder still moves. Not completely around, but about 1/4in. I want to either get this fixed, or find a new one to replace it. The other problem is, I understand some of these were black powder cartridges so thats what I want to find out as well.

    Thank you for your time,
    deerhuntr107
  2. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    the A letter code was used on the model 1900 22 caliber between 1918 and 1942. with the letter code on the trigger guard instead of the grip frame it is possible this revolver was made after wwII. what is the complete serial number?

    I.J. MODEL 1900 FIRST MODEL (BLACK POWDER) ------------1900-1908
    Does not have Hammer the Hammer action, solid frame, double action, pull pin cylinder release. Nickel finish standard with blue optional, all barrels are octagon shaped. Offered in three frame sizes and four calibers, grip panels are hard rubber with Owls head logo; Barrel length; small frame 2 ¼ inches, medium & large frame 2 ½ inches, other length barrels were offered at extra charge; Calibers: small frame .22 rimfire with 7 rounds cylinder capacity; medium frame .32 rimfire & centerfire with 5 rounds cylinder capacity, large frame .38 centerfire with 5 rounds cylinder capacity; Weight with standard barrel length: small frame 11 ounces, medium frame 12 ounces, large frame 18 ounces; Height: small frame 3 3/8 inches, medium frame 3 ½ inches, large frame 3 7/8 inches; Frame length: small frame 4 inches, medium frame 4 ¼ inches, large frame 4 7/8 inches; Overall length with standard barrel length: small frame 6 inches, medium frame 6 1/8 inches, large frame 6 ¾ inches. Note: large frame model not introduced until 1903. Between 1900 and 1902 the 38 caliber American Bull Dog frame size was marked as the Model 1900. Will not have letter code prefix to serial number.
    DOES NOT HAVE “HAMMER THE HAMMER” ACTION.
    VALUE: 100%=$135 60%=$85 (50% premium for American Bull Dog frame marked Model 1900)

    I.J. MODEL 1900 SECOND MODEL (SMOKELESS POWDER)------1909-1941
    Exact same specifications as the First Model except cylinder and internal parts hardened for smokeless powder loads and as listed below. Six shot 32 S&W Long Caliber added to large frame in 1931. All smokeless powder rated Model 1900’s will have a letter code prefix to the serial number. This letter code prefix will be found on the left side of the grip frame (under the grips).
    Small frame 7 shot 22 rimfire caliber= D (1909-1917) and A (1918-1941/1942)
    Medium frame 5 shot 32 S&W caliber= E (1909-1917) and B (1918-1941/1942)
    Large frame 5 shot 38 S&W caliber= F (1909-1917) and C (1918-1941/1942) (After 1931 also available as a 6 shot 32 S&W Long)
    DOES NOT HAVE “HAMMER THE HAMMER” ACTION.
    VALUE: 100%=$145 60%=$95 (10% premium for 32 Long caliber)
    bill
  3. deerhuntr107

    deerhuntr107 New Member

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    Thank you for the info! The full SN on it under the grip is 37422 and the bottom of the trigger guard says A37422.
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    this is a very late production. A 37422 was made in 1941, 450 made that year.

    bill
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    deerhuntr107 New Member

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    Thank you very much! So would the cylinder be able to be fixed? It needs metal added to the teeth on the back where it catches and then filed/ground down to be long enough to catch. At least thats what I presume.

    Thank you for your time,
    deerhuntr107
  6. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    it would be more cost effective to look for a cylinder for a second model (1909-1941) small frame 7 shot 22 rimfire. just make sure it doisn't have the same problem as your cylinder.

    bill
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2010
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