I.J. Target Sealed 8

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  1. donbryan1970

    donbryan1970 New Member

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    My grandfather gave me this pistol and I need some info about it. I would like to know the value and when it was made. It is an 8 round revolver.
    On the top it says -I.J. TARGET SEALED 8- Under that it says
    I.J.A & C. WKS. FITCHBURG, MASS. USA. The serial number under the trigger is M29665. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Don
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  2. southernshooter

    southernshooter New Member

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    According to my book
    The Target Sealed 8 was made between 1931 and 1957
    New In Box it is worth about $190
    In Exc. Shape $150
    In Good Shape $115
    Their will be some other members around that know more about I.Johnson than myself
  3. Lead Lobber

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    Also, the "I.J." are initials for "Iver Johnson".

    LL
  4. peeps870

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    I aslo own one of these pistols but it says "sealed 8" instead of target sealed 8. If anyone can give me any info it would be greatly appreciated. If it helps to serial # is N21695.
  5. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    don,
    the iver johnson's arms & cycle works 'target sealed 8' was manufactured between 1932 and 1954. preWWII models have an octagon barrel and postWWII models have a round barrel.

    serial number M29665 was manufactured about 1946/47 it should have the round barrel as it was one of the first manufactured after WWII. serial numbers on the first model (prewwII ended at M13100 and they picked up again at M13101 when production was resumed in 1946/47 with about 20,000 a year being manufactured a year until 1954. serial number M99,999 was reached about 1950 and the letter code was changed to 'N' and the numbers were started over again at 'N1'.

    the only barrel length offered on the preWWII models was 6 inches but the postWWII models were available in 2 1/2, 4 and 6 inches. standard grips were one piece over size checkered american black walnut. a one piece oversize plastic (tenite) was offered as optional on the 4 and 6 inch barrel lengths after wwII and the 2 1/2 inch barrel model have two piece walnut grips. the model number for the longer barrel lengths was 68 and the short barrel model was the 68S.

    peeps870,
    the marking of just 'sealed 8' are usually associated with the short barrel model 68S. what is the barrel length of you revolver? serial number N21695 was manufactured about 1952. i am not sure of the exact date the 2 1/2 inch barrel was introduced but i have not encountered one with an "M" letter code, just the "N" letter code.

    i have factory serial number records for preWWII model but the one for post WWII models are missing-in-action. and for some reason the BATF does not want to release any of the post1968 records they have on iver johnson. so the information i have and in my book on postWWII models is from catalogs and actual guns. therefore it is important to me to know the barrel length of your revolver marked just "sealed 8"
    thanks
    bill
  6. peeps870

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    It has the 2 1/2 inch barrel, I can post a pic if it helps. I really want to determine the value. thanks guys
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    peeps870,
    thanks for the information of the barrel length. the 2 1/2 inch barrel should bring about a 25% premium over the 6 inch barrel model. the 6 inch barrel length seem to be bring between $125 and $175 depending on condition on the auction sites.
    bill
  8. rogerramjet2680

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    I also have a I. J. target sealed 8 ser. # 5507 would appreciate any information any one has on it...thanks
  9. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    does this revolver have the M or N letter code makes a difference of prewar and postwar.
    bill
  10. Big Shrek

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    The 2.5" barrel version should be called the Protector Sealed 8 DA Revolver.
    Made 1933-1949 by my book.

    There was also a Supershot Sealed 8 with a 6" barrel...walnut checkered grips...adjustable target sights...pre-war versions had a nifty finger-rest.

    I love gun history :D

    Oh, and Post some dang pics!!!
    The grip designs can help tell us which year revolvers they are...along with certain other clues :D

    Sealed 8 types that are listed in the StoegerGTG.
    Protector Sealed 8 (2.5" barrel)
    Target Sealed 8 (6" or 10" barrel)
    Supershot Sealed 8 (adjustable sights-6" barrel only)
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  11. acw1300

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    i have one of these in pretty good condition--only its got the 5 7/8 barrel.id love to find a 2.5 in and the 4 in barrel--anybody know where or who has these for sale?
  12. b.goforth

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    start looking on all the on-line auctions sites. mostly 6 inch show up but the other barrel lengths appear sometime.
    bill
  13. acw1300

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    i work for a weapons manufacturer..curious if i could make one of these old barrels...not sure of the twist in a 2.5..guess it would be the same as a 6 in. long as its twisted for a .22
  14. SGT Bodie

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    I just got a IJA&C from my dad, he said he bought it in 1965, I do have a serial # for it M89XXX, I think is was made around 1949-1950. Does any one know if I can shoot todays .22 through it without hurting it?
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    Sgt - Made in 1950. Shoot standard velocity no super or hyper and it should be fine. I have one of these and have had no issues.
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    I, also, have an I.J. Target Sealed 8 that belonged to my granfather. I'm really not interested in what it is worth, because I'm not going to part with it, but I would like to know when it was made. It has a 4" barrel, and the serial # is N24438. If anyone can tell me what year it was made, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
  17. hrf

    hrf Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the forum. N24438 was made in 1952.
  18. macahuna

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    Hi,
    My dad just passed away, and I found a pistol in his sock drawer. It's a .22 cal. Iver Johnson Target Sealed 8 with a 2-1/2" octagonal barrel. There's a number on the bottom of the trigger guard: 1866. I haven't taken the one-piece walnut stock with the diamond crosshatching off to see anything inside. I cleaned it and fired it this morning. It works, but the pulling the trigger is like lifting a cinder block with one finger! One side of the pistol looks to have "normal" wear and tear of the blueing worn away on the high spots, but the other side (left side if it's pointed away from you) is more shiny, and has dark splotches on it. There's just a wee bit of rust in the crosshatching on the hammer. I can tell that someone has tried to shine it up a bit, but they must have given it up as a lost cause. I looked in six or seven price books and reference books in the book store this weekend, but there's no mention of the short barrel. None of the posts here list a serial number this low.

    First, is it worth anything? Second, should I try to strip it down and refinish it, or is it better to keep it in its "antique" condition?

    Thanks - this is an interesting forum.
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  19. hrf

    hrf Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the forum.

    There are some contradictions evident in your description; please remove the grip and see if the serial on grip frame has a letter prefix and post photos if possible:

    The 2nd model T.S.8 made after WW-2 was offered with a 2-1/2" round barrel, and had small two-piece wooden grips.

    Is there any evidence that the barrel has been shortened?

    From the collector standpoint, refinishing is frowned upon, but if it has alreday been partly polished, it's probably has shooter value only and refinishing wouldn't matter.
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  20. macahuna

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    Hi,

    Thanks for the reply. Here are some photos. The mark inside the grips is definitely M1866. In my (niave) opinion, it looks like the barrel was longer and it's been sawed off and cleaned up. I say that because the company name on the side starts with "J" with no "I" in front of it, and the MA town it was made in has the front site machined through the town. That doesn't mean that the manufacturer didn't just cut corners, it just looks kinda tacky... The barrel is obviously octagonal. The grip is definitely one piece, with a screw in the bottom of the butt; the grip slides off the back of the gun. I think I've shot the more important places on the gun. I'm only allowed 4 shots, so I'll put the others in another reply.

    Thanks again!

    Ron

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