i need help appraising and identifying this 5 shot .75 caliber pistol

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by dstacy8, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. dstacy8

    dstacy8 New Member

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    Jul 14, 2011
    ive came across this pistol thats been in the family for a long time and i know absolutely nothing else about it. no one knows. ive been to many gun collectors and appraisers and they also know nothing

    it weighs at least five pounds. its a five shot. its been only shot 3 times. measured the caliber just over .75... revolver.
     

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  2. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    Australia
    only one i ever saw like it ( and from my memory) was German about 1848 or so
     

  3. hrf

    hrf Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Maybe a modern concoction, I don't think allen head screws date to 1840s...
     
  4. Buffalochip

    Buffalochip Well-Known Member

    Oct 22, 2008
    Socket head screws (aka allen head) have been around for about a century but, as you pointed out, this gun would likely date to the 1840s if if is original. It may be a modern concoction, but it may very well be that the original screws were replaced with allen heads. What purpose do they serve? It appears to be very well made and that calibre and mass leads me to wonder if it might be a naval weapon--or perhaps for a stagecoach? One certainly wouldn't want to carry that thing around loaded--it would make you lean to one side.
     
  5. Jolly Bill

    Jolly Bill Member

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    Aug 28, 2008
    Upstate NY
    dstacy8;

    Welcome to the Forum.

    Pretty neat looking piece of machinery.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one to wonder, how do you know "its been only shot 3 times"?
     
  6. Jim Hauff

    Jim Hauff New Member

    Apr 20, 2008
    Lehigh Valley, PA
    Quick research indicates the concept of "HEX HEAD" screws goes back into the 1860s, but no "practical" applications until the 1890s. In "concept" a progressive German gunsmith may have used them during the percussion cap era - then 1860s may fit both criteria. Curious piece indeed. The nipples look pristine, the "embellishment" looks a bit crude - certainly not a M... gun!
     
  7. 3/2 STA SS

    3/2 STA SS Active Member

    Jim,
    You said ''nipples'' you might as well say MU.......:p:D
     
  8. RJay

    RJay Well-Known Member

    Feb 22, 2004
    Goodyear, Arizona
    I don't think I've ever seen a Pepper Box of that large of caliber! That looks like a Mu** gun from hell. It does indeed look like some type of " crowd control " devise, I know it would impress the heck out of me.
     
  9. Buffalochip

    Buffalochip Well-Known Member

    Oct 22, 2008
    FOUND IT! Very rare elephant muff gun with prototype hex nuts.
     
  10. rhmc24

    rhmc24 Active Member

    809
    Dec 1, 2010
    Ardmore, OK
    I would like to see more and better pictures. At this point my vote is that it is a recent project piece. People do make things - here's a couple of mine::):)
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  11. dstacy8

    dstacy8 New Member

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    Jul 14, 2011
    i correct myself, only three of the barrels have been fired out of. and when i got it we fired it three times.... so just assuming we thought three times. and we think that the original screws were replaced with hex heads. but other than that we know absolutely nothing about the gun.
    does anyone know a price range or an exact identification....
     
  12. Jim K

    Jim K New Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    I agree that that gun has some features (aside from the Allen type set screws) that look modern. The "engraving" was done with an electric pencil, then filled with gold paint. The grip looks very improbable for a large caliber pistol. I get the feeling that it might be a limited production repro, rather than a "one off" home workshop project gun.

    I wonder if dstacy8 can determine just how long the gun has been in his family.

    Jim
     
  13. dstacy8

    dstacy8 New Member

    5
    Jul 14, 2011
    i have no idea how long its been in the family. it was gave to me bout a year ago, other than that the person before me isnt around anymore and people say he had it for at least 20 yrs and was handed down to him
     
  14. Twaits

    Twaits Member

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    Jul 13, 2009
    Windham
    That's really cool. Are you interested in selling it?
     
  15. dstacy8

    dstacy8 New Member

    5
    Jul 14, 2011
    yes... i have no use for it.
     
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