newguy13
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I'm new here and have been surfing this site for the last little while and find the information on here to be very informative. Well here is my question. I am 16 and in high school up here in Canada. For some reason, and I'm not too sure why, I have some enemies that threaten to "beat my up". Up here in Canada it is not like down there in the States. We do not have metal detectors in our schools or anything like that. There are just some people who don't like me and would like to express that with thier fists. I know that for sure they would not beat me to a point where I would not be able to go to school anymore but they would try to hurt me and I have been attached before. Now I'm not a little guy, I'm about 220lbs which most of is muscle but I do have my share of fat. I am also about 5"10' so I'm not that short. My problem is that I have never been in a real fight and don't know how I should go about defending myself. What I am asking here is for some advice on how I should defend myself the fend off these petty thugs so they think about coming after me again and I would prefer to keep them out of the hospital but if I have to I will. Thanks in advance for any info/advice.
Oh and just a note when I'm 18 and can legally get a firearm I plan on getting myself a good old 12 guage for the home and range.
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You could:
1. Get a mohawk, wear a flakjacket, fold your arms and say, "you talkin' to me?...you talkin' to ME?" -or-
2. Do the Curly shuffle. Shemp’s fighting techniques we’re always real ace too - the hair flopping around, great footwork, and idle swings at guys he’s threatening....all while spewing "Heeeebeeebeeeebeeeee...".
Hint: #2 might be more effective as they may choke from laffin'...
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Sounds like you are big enough to defend your self in a fist fight. Ever seen a boxing match? Just do that. Make a fist and aim for the face. Kick them in the shin and stomp on the top of the foot.
Ignorance is a crime in 49 states. In the other one it is bliss.
SouthernMoss
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What about taking a class in martial arts? That would not only give you the techniques to defend yourself, but also an aura of confidence, which will tend to discourage bullies.
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That is very true. The lack of self confidence is what bullies home in on.
Never had any problems with the self confidence part. That is probably why I got rather good at fisticuffs I also boxed for awhile in grade school.
Ignorance is a crime in 49 states. In the other one it is bliss. Edited by: warpig883 at: 1/11/03 1:58:25 pm
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Hi Newguy13......welcome to TFF.
I think SouthernMoss gave you some good advice.
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newguy13 -
I would have to go along with what ZigZag2 and Xracer have said about the advice from SouthernMoss regarding training in the martial arts.
Not only will you gain self confidence as well as being able to protect yourself, you are less likely to get into as serious trouble with martial arts in self defense than if you were to use a weapon of any type (knife, gun, baseball bat, tire iron, crow bar, etc.).
You are young yet and still have a (hopefully) long life ahead of you. Do not waste it by making wrong choices just yet. You show signs of maturity by asking others for assistance with your situation, now improve on that maturity by seriously considering what we are offering.
You are also a compassionate young person who is more concerneed with anothers welfare more than your own. This is good and a valued personal trait IF USED PROPERLY. That being said, who would you rather see in a hospital, yourself because you didn't/couldn't defend yourself; or one of the thugs who beat on you? And you also have to look at it this way; when a thug instigates an attack on someone they do it for the purpose of harming/hurting them. If they get "beat at their own game" it's just too darn bad. If he/they should wind up in the hospital they have no one to blame except themselves.
Good luck to you
JackRyann
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I'll back up the advice on the martial arts training.
Just a little secret here. First this is on the ASSUMPTION you are talking about what we now call an "old fashion fist fight", 90% of the problem people have is the FEAR of getting hurt.
Something you will learn if you go very far in the martial arts is that hitting people as well as getting hit HURTS. You will get hurt, you will hurt some one else. It is unavoidable.
What you learn is that getting hurt a little is not a permenant condition. It stops. Being humiliated or bullied does not stop unless you stop it. I would suggest pursueing all means of stopping it in a nonviolent manner first but I know enough about the teenage years to know what you are going through. Once you face the prospect that it is going to hurt and decide it is worth it to resist and make them hurt worse you are miles ahead of the majority.
My suggestion to you is the same I gave my son. He was more than big enough. His problem was that he had self control and HE had something to lose by getting in trouble at school. Bullys rarely have either. If you have to MAKE it stop, make sure it is stopped. Do not leave any room for the thought that if they had only tried harder they may have subdued YOU. That will only encourage then to try again later and you only want to face the consequences of confrontation once. Make sure they get the messege the first time.
--44 mag, when you're ready to get serious--
Ballistic
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damn im 17, 140lbs and 5'9" and never been in a fight, xcept in elementary school, i was considered big then, 5foot in 5th grade, but back to the point i was never in a fight in high school, i guess everyone thought i was out there, (was a outkast in school) but if you do get in a fight ill say this, NEVER and i mean NEVER give up until they are cringing on the floor in the fetal position crying! as long as you keep on it you should be fine, a man of your size should be able to do some nice damage compared to me... and if you do get behind them choke them until they cant take it anymore but dont let go completely if they put up a fight still doo it longer until they cant fight back...
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I'm new here and have been surfing this site for the last little while and find the information on here to be very informative. Well here is my question. I am 16 and in high school up here in Canada. For some reason, and I'm not too sure why, I have some enemies that threaten to "beat my up". Up here in Canada it is not like down there in the States. We do not have metal detectors in our schools or anything like that. There are just some people who don't like me and would like to express that with thier fists. I know that for sure they would not beat me to a point where I would not be able to go to school anymore but they would try to hurt me and I have been attached before. Now I'm not a little guy, I'm about 220lbs which most of is muscle but I do have my share of fat. I am also about 5"10' so I'm not that short. My problem is that I have never been in a real fight and don't know how I should go about defending myself. What I am asking here is for some advice on how I should defend myself the fend off these petty thugs so they think about coming after me again and I would prefer to keep them out of the hospital but if I have to I will. Thanks in advance for any info/advice.
Oh and just a note when I'm 18 and can legally get a firearm I plan on getting myself a good old 12 guage for the home and range.
shooter45 us
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If you never fight back, you will always be labeled as an easy target.
Slimslam
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(1/11/03 9:15:42 am)
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You could:
1. Get a mohawk, wear a flakjacket, fold your arms and say, "you talkin' to me?...you talkin' to ME?" -or-
2. Do the Curly shuffle. Shemp’s fighting techniques we’re always real ace too - the hair flopping around, great footwork, and idle swings at guys he’s threatening....all while spewing "Heeeebeeebeeeebeeeee...".
Hint: #2 might be more effective as they may choke from laffin'...
warpig883
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Sounds like you are big enough to defend your self in a fist fight. Ever seen a boxing match? Just do that. Make a fist and aim for the face. Kick them in the shin and stomp on the top of the foot.
Ignorance is a crime in 49 states. In the other one it is bliss.
SouthernMoss
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What about taking a class in martial arts? That would not only give you the techniques to defend yourself, but also an aura of confidence, which will tend to discourage bullies.
Zigzag2
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I'm with SouthernMoss 100%
warpig883
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That is very true. The lack of self confidence is what bullies home in on.
Never had any problems with the self confidence part. That is probably why I got rather good at fisticuffs I also boxed for awhile in grade school.
Ignorance is a crime in 49 states. In the other one it is bliss. Edited by: warpig883 at: 1/11/03 1:58:25 pm
Xracer
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Hi Newguy13......welcome to TFF.
I think SouthernMoss gave you some good advice.
ruffitt
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newguy13 -
I would have to go along with what ZigZag2 and Xracer have said about the advice from SouthernMoss regarding training in the martial arts.
Not only will you gain self confidence as well as being able to protect yourself, you are less likely to get into as serious trouble with martial arts in self defense than if you were to use a weapon of any type (knife, gun, baseball bat, tire iron, crow bar, etc.).
You are young yet and still have a (hopefully) long life ahead of you. Do not waste it by making wrong choices just yet. You show signs of maturity by asking others for assistance with your situation, now improve on that maturity by seriously considering what we are offering.
You are also a compassionate young person who is more concerneed with anothers welfare more than your own. This is good and a valued personal trait IF USED PROPERLY. That being said, who would you rather see in a hospital, yourself because you didn't/couldn't defend yourself; or one of the thugs who beat on you? And you also have to look at it this way; when a thug instigates an attack on someone they do it for the purpose of harming/hurting them. If they get "beat at their own game" it's just too darn bad. If he/they should wind up in the hospital they have no one to blame except themselves.
Good luck to you
JackRyann
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(1/13/03 2:13:35 am)
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I'll back up the advice on the martial arts training.
Just a little secret here. First this is on the ASSUMPTION you are talking about what we now call an "old fashion fist fight", 90% of the problem people have is the FEAR of getting hurt.
Something you will learn if you go very far in the martial arts is that hitting people as well as getting hit HURTS. You will get hurt, you will hurt some one else. It is unavoidable.
What you learn is that getting hurt a little is not a permenant condition. It stops. Being humiliated or bullied does not stop unless you stop it. I would suggest pursueing all means of stopping it in a nonviolent manner first but I know enough about the teenage years to know what you are going through. Once you face the prospect that it is going to hurt and decide it is worth it to resist and make them hurt worse you are miles ahead of the majority.
My suggestion to you is the same I gave my son. He was more than big enough. His problem was that he had self control and HE had something to lose by getting in trouble at school. Bullys rarely have either. If you have to MAKE it stop, make sure it is stopped. Do not leave any room for the thought that if they had only tried harder they may have subdued YOU. That will only encourage then to try again later and you only want to face the consequences of confrontation once. Make sure they get the messege the first time.
--44 mag, when you're ready to get serious--
Ballistic
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damn im 17, 140lbs and 5'9" and never been in a fight, xcept in elementary school, i was considered big then, 5foot in 5th grade, but back to the point i was never in a fight in high school, i guess everyone thought i was out there, (was a outkast in school) but if you do get in a fight ill say this, NEVER and i mean NEVER give up until they are cringing on the floor in the fetal position crying! as long as you keep on it you should be fine, a man of your size should be able to do some nice damage compared to me... and if you do get behind them choke them until they cant take it anymore but dont let go completely if they put up a fight still doo it longer until they cant fight back...