I need to update my knowledge on reloading

Discussion in 'The Ammo & Reloading Forum' started by tigertracker, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. tigertracker

    tigertracker New Member

    Aug 20, 2012
    I haven't reloaded in many years and I need some advice on some issues. I have a Dillon 550 and in the past only loaded 9MM using Unique powder. My son and I recently bought 45 ACP's and we have access to a tactical range, which will burn some ammo. We have short barrel pistols, 3 and 4 in., so I would like to use a fast powder. All of my Unique is out of date, so I have to get more anyway. Any recommendations as to what powder would be best for 230 grain bullets? What would a good starting point for a powder load recipe for a medium load? Also we will have about 5 of us reloading, I think I probably have enough brass, but the supplier for bullets and once fired brass that I used to use (Blue star out of Arkansas) is no longer in business. Any recommendations for a reputable and reasonable supplier? Thanks in advance for your help.
  2. 312shooter

    312shooter Well-Known Member

    Mar 17, 2008
    Las Vegas NV
    I have still not found a more favorable, accurate and soft shooter than 5gr Bullseye under those 230 grainers. www.precisiondelta.com will be your lowest price on 230 FMJ's
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2012

  3. X Ring

    X Ring Active Member

    Mar 23, 2011
    There is no such thing as out of date powder if it has been stored correctly. 4.5gr Bullseye is a great mid-range load with 230gr cast RN. Start at the 4.0gr starting load and work up in .2gr increments. Casting lead bullets will save you lots o money and they work great in the 45ACP.
  4. Twicepop

    Twicepop Well-Known Member

    Jan 9, 2012
    NW Ohio
    Ditto on the comments about the powder storage. I've used Unique for both the .45 acp and the 9mm, with both jacketed and cast bullets with great results.

    those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't
  5. Deacon_Man

    Deacon_Man Active Member

    Feb 23, 2010
    Weatherford Texas
    I use Red dot and bullseye for my .45 loads and it works great. As for a place to buy really cheap bullets... http://www.bulletworks.com/
  6. Bud0505

    Bud0505 Member

    Dec 5, 2011
    There are many online sites to purchase reloading supplies. Here are a few to get you started:

    Powder Valley - http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

    Penn Bullets - http://www.pennbullets.com/

    Montana Bullet Works - http://www.montanabulletworks.com/

    Starline - http://www.starlinebrass.com/

    Graf & Sons: http://www.grafs.com/ and
    Widener's Reloading: http://www.wideners.com/

    http://www.zerobullets.com/ or


    You can also do a search and read some of the many posts that discuss where to buy supplies.
  7. PanhandlePop

    PanhandlePop Member

    May 27, 2011
    See above on your "out of date" powder (XRing) and supplies (Bud0505). As for powders, I've used a variety, but for general range work I usually go with 231/HP38.
  8. Clipper

    Clipper Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2010
    Amarillo, TX
    First of all, you really need a new book! Refresh your library and spend some time reading up on the newer items available and loads recommended by the publication, not a bunch of really neat guys on TFF.

    We all agree that your Unique is still potent stuff, and the suggested powders, Bullseye, Titegroup, Win 231 and others are great replacements. Run some loads thru your Dillon and shoot 'em to find your sweet loads....Glad you returned to the craft, and found TFF..
  9. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

    Sep 7, 2007
    Athens, Georgia
    I totally agree with Clipper on the refreshing of your library. You do need a new manual, for sure. If you get to posting, you still have time to get to 50 posts and you will be able to sign up for the Lyman # 49 manual that is being given away at the end of the month.

    I use titegroup in both the 200 grain and the 230 grain bullets.
  10. LDBennett

    LDBennett Well-Known Member

    Dec 20, 2003
    Hesperia, CA

    The Dillon powder measure does its best job of metering with small grained powders, spherical powers. The most universal handgun powder that I have found that the Dillon powder measure likes and meters well is Hodgdon HP38 or Winchester 231 (they are exactly the same powder with different labels on the containers, made in the same factory on the same powder line and both are distributed by Hodgdon).

    Unique is a bit slower, a much older formula, and is said to burn a bit dirtier than more modern powders like the HP38/W231.

    But hey, use whatever you want but be sure to use a modern reloading manual as some of the maximum load levels have changed since the industry started using better max pressure measuring tools in testing.

  11. rmorgan9718

    rmorgan9718 New Member

    Aug 13, 2012
    Houston, TX
    For bullets try Berry's, Precision Bullets, Power Bond, and TNT. Best loads for XD45 and several 1911's is 5.0 gr Bullseye. Should chrony about 750 to 815, depending on barrel length, etc.

    Best source for brass is look at this site, and others for someone selling their excess or range brass. I use a lot of 'x' times fired in the 45ACP, and inspect them when reloading. Throw out 1 out of 3000 per month. Have several I quit reloading when I read GI headstamps with 1947 date! And everything mic's out to SAAMI spec.

    9mm is another matter, higher pressures, etc.

    Good luck and stay safe.
  12. tigertracker

    tigertracker New Member

    Aug 20, 2012
    Thanks to all of you for your replies and suggestions. My new dies just came in and I am in the process of moving, so I am cleaning cases now. It looks like I will have plenty of 45 brass and I have a lot of 40 cal that I may be able to trade with someone. I am going to order a new book as soon as I can find out which box my old one is in. I want to buy the updated version of the one I had because it was very clear and easy to read, but I am not sure which book it was. (It's hell to get old) I do have one more question, I notice that some 45 ACP cases are small primer and some are large primer. Why the difference and is one better than the other? Thanks again.
  13. jlloyd73

    jlloyd73 Active Member

    Nov 28, 2010
    For 45acp 230 cast RN I use 4- 4.3 grains of Titegroup and it works great. I don't use any of the small primer pocket 45 brass.......
  14. 312shooter

    312shooter Well-Known Member

    Mar 17, 2008
    Las Vegas NV
  15. tigertracker

    tigertracker New Member

    Aug 20, 2012
    Thanks for the link, good info there. It sure looks as though there is a potential for a dangerous situation if one doesn't sort the brass well.
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