I was doing some dangerous thinking

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  1. Mr. Nameless

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    I was thiking about bullets and the different variations (tracers, incendiery[sp?], etc.) and my mind crossed to poison bullets. And I thought, could you make the bullet with a glass casing, metal tips, and the back of it metal? Would this work? I mean you could fill it with mercury, or if you're really crazy you could put a peice of uranium in it, but I digress. But my question is, would this work? Any thoughts are welcomed.
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    Depleted uranium armor piercing
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    But do you get the main concept of what I'm trying to say?
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    Lead poisoning.:confused::D:D:D
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    "The cheapest way to make a bullet more lethal than it already is"

    Is that what you're asking Mr Nameless? Or did you just finish watching Underworld... :rolleyes:

    SR
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    I guess I don't get it, this forum is for sportsman. Its damn hard enough maintaining the gun laws that we have and enjoying the liberties we have in this forum. And here we are asking about things that were outlined in the geneva convention to not use even in battle. I think you should go elsewhere to bring up foolish topics of this nature, for christ sake man get a brain! YOU ARE ON THE INTERNET SAYING THIS STUFF! WAKE UP!!!!!!!!
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    I have seen hollow points filled with mercury, and caped with wax to keep it in. But, why? If the bullet didn't kill you out right, the mercury would, but it would a long time. Some other quick acting poision like Tetrodotoxin might work. Don't know how much would be needed, but I think a well placed bullet would be quicker.
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    I think it would have to be an ultrafast acting poison, or why bother?

    Mr. 312, isn't one of our liberties the freedom of speech? For christ's sake man, the poster did not advocate poison bullets! He mearly trusted he would get an honest answer, just curousity! WAKE UP! Do you always jump down someone's throat for a simple question? Sound like a deep seated, paranoid avoidance of any thoughts you don't deem appropriate. WAKE UP!:eek:
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    I believe that some of the things this Thread starter mentioned are nothing new, have been made, and are currently a violation of Federal Law for any private citizen to make or possess!
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    just because you can say it doesnt mean you should! liberty and freedom in any form is a responsibilty.
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    So is having a modified semi-auto that fires full auto.... but we can still talk & ask questions about them. (@ least for now!)

    Mr. Nameless: My Grandfather told me whenever hunting in deep brush, to rub garlic oil on the tips of my hunting ammo. He said the oil is an anticoagulant (stops blood from clotting) & would leave 1 hell of a blood trail. Even a grazing shot would cause the animal to bleed out in short order.... ;)

    As for using Mercury in a HP - I wouldn't recommend using it as that would contaminate the meat, & I eat everything I kill! (except Zombies! :D)

    SR :)
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    A scary question indeed. :eek: I don't know nothing.
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    I've heard of the mercury in the hollowpoint. Mercury, being slightly heavier than lead, would not stop as soon as the lead bullet. Inertia would keep it going, busting through the end of the bullet and making a massive mushroom effect, or possibly even exploding the bullet. That was the theory, anyway, in "The Day of the Jackal". The assassin going after DeGaulle had mercury in his bullets to make them explode. If it would work, I would think it would need to not completely fill the hollow cavity. It would need room to move.

    In Mississippi, several years ago, poison arrows were allowed during bowhunting (I don't know if that is still true). You used this dingus called a POD (Poison Operating Device) behind the broadhead. You hit the deer, the POD went into the body of the deer and released the poison. You used a synthetic curare. A guy I know, who used to live there, told me he had a quantity of this synthetic curare. He had packed the hollow in Sierra 185 grain JHC 45 bullets with it. It was his "home defense" ammo. Said he did not need to do a good shot. Just hit him. Once it got into the bloodstream, it was fatal, unless there was someone right there that knew what he was doing and had the right equipment to resuscitate the burglar until the curare's paralysis of the breathing system wore off. Shoot him in the heart/lung? He dies. Shoot him in the arm? Takes 10 minutes or so, but he dies.

    Don't know whether that would work either, but that's what I was told.
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    But the reason I even started thinking about this is because of a projectI herad of that the Government was doing decades ago. They were actualy trying this to make it seem like the person survived the shot, but the poison killed them on a later date. So really this is all out of curiosity.
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    Take a lesson from Charlie, who showed us that bamboo covered in human waste, will infect wounds and take a soldier out of combat.

    Thats right bros, dippem and weep

    I keep telling you all, I sure hope the one worlders wait another 10 years before they try and take over. To many of our band of Brothers got nuttin better to do but teach the youngins what Charlie tought us, when we wore younger mans clothes.
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    I have too been thinking about a wierd bullet. what if you made an bullet like a miniature artillary shell where it literally exploded on contact, I know if wouldn't be a big explosion, but if you hit someone in the vest it might set them on their a** a little better. any thoughts?
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    ... some dangerous thinking

    The mercury in the bullet idea is neat, except... mercury forms an amalgam with lead (among other things). That amalgam is a sludge sort of thing - in other words, the lead dissolves. Which is why one finds in some older works the advocacy of mercury to remove lead from bores. Perhaps some other material for a holder might work.

    Putting poison in a capsule might work. All one needs to do is to develop a capsule or container that will not shatter upon firing and then open up on impact.

    The amount of explosive that can be loaded into a small arms projectile is rather insignificant. Even .50 BMG ammo doesn't really have 'explosive' types; the nearest I know is incendiary and that is for 'light skinned' targets like transport vehicles and aircraft. No real use on tanks.

    In point of fact, the most useful projectiles for small arms - less than 50 caliber - are regular bullets. Expanding bullets, I suppose; flat fronted (either full wadcutter or semi wadcutter) for non expanding bullets or velocities.

    Sorry to rain on the parade.
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    There was some work of this type done in WWII but nothing really came out of it. The mercury idea was done originally with large caliber rounds in a tin coted hollow point but it never became anything more than a tested Idea for general warfare. As far as uranium and all that who the hell knows. There has always been rumers flailing around about bullet types. My favorite was the needle in a copper jacketted lead bullet. The Idea was to place a needle in the center of copper jacketed round with the tip of the needle just below the tip of the bullet. The idea was that as it impacted a bullet proof vest that the needle would penetrate still causing colleretal damage. Nothing ever became of this however or at least nothing I ever heard of.

    It is hard to say really what has been tested or what has been used. We know that the orientals were nastyier than even the germans when it came to warfare. As one of our members here mentioned about the vietnamese and the bamboo.

    Is it possible I would say yes, has it been used, Who knows. Has it ever been tested, most definately.
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    Used to be some ammo called "Exploders". It used (depending on who you asked) a primer or some rxp in the hollow point of the bullet. They said you did not have to worry about dropping them. Took 400 fps to make them go off. Came 12 to the box, and cost 12 dollars, in 1980. There's a box of 'em for sale on the evil auction site, right now. Opening bid of 75, buy it now price of 125. Wow.

    The explosive compound was to make sure that the hollowpoint opened up, as back then you needed to be going more than 1000 fps for reliable opening, and that was hard to do with 45s or 38s.

    I shot a watermelon with one, back in '85. Pink mist in the air. Worked pretty dang good. Illegal, now, in Florida.
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