ID of an Iver Johnson's Revolver

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by jmbrickley, Jun 23, 2011.

  1. jmbrickley

    jmbrickley New Member

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    Jun 23, 2011
    I have an Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works, 5 shot, top break, nickel plated, .38 cal revolver with hammer. The Number from under the left side of the grip frame is I 20090. What am I looking at? Black powder only, or will this one shoot smokeless? A price value would be nice too, but not necessary.

    I also have a Iver Johnson's A&CW, 5 shot, top break, nickel plated, hammerless, .32 cal revolver. # B 18768, both under the grip (left side) and on the trigger guard. Same info requested.

    TIA jmbrickley
     
  2. hrf

    hrf Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Welcome to the forum.

    (1) .38 with hammer I20090 = large frame 2nd model made 1903 for black powder .38 S&W cartridge.

    (2) .32 hammerless B18768 = small frame 3rd model made 1910 for smokeless powder .32 S&W cartridge.
     

  3. RJay

    RJay Well-Known Member

    Feb 22, 2004
    Goodyear, Arizona
    I prefix used in 1903 on large frame 38 S&W Center fire, Serial numbers I0001 thrjough 100,000. Small frame hammerless { 32 S&W center fire } used the B prefix in 1896. The serials numbers for that year were B00001 through B50,000 { Estimated }. Iver Johnson went to a strengthened Smokeless Powder frame in 1909.
     
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  4. jmbrickley

    jmbrickley New Member

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    Jun 23, 2011
    Thanks guys,

    I'm relieved to know why the many hundreds of smokeless I put through the .32 never blew the gun up. :) We were using it to dispatch large sharks and swordfish back in the days when I was a drift netter.

    I had a feeling the .38 was smokeless only. I have never fired it.

    Thanks again.
     
  5. hrf

    hrf Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    RJay, the B prefix was used again on the 3rd model 1909-1913.

    The 1896 1st model had the serial number only on outside bottom of butt.

    The 3rd model had it on trigger guard and left butt strap as he indicates his gun does.
     
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  6. hrf

    hrf Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2008
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  7. PJW

    PJW New Member

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    Jul 12, 2013
    Hello I have an Iver Johnson 3rd model 38 with PAT. Nov. 17 08. The number under the left grip is H25868. I have been looking everywhere online trying to find the date this revolver was made. Thanks
     
  8. RJay

    RJay Well-Known Member

    Feb 22, 2004
    Goodyear, Arizona
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