Identify this Civil War Cavalry Carbine

Discussion in 'Curio & Relics Forum' started by SCTiger, Apr 28, 2004.

  1. SCTiger

    SCTiger New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    Augusta, Georgia

    I found this reference in some records about the Augusta Arsenal,
    CAN anyone tell me what a M i j rifle is?

    Page 20, July 19 1862.
    Entry #21

    Invoice of ordnance stores turned over by Jno U Ansley M & K to
    Col F. W. Hunter Bluff Springs Ala

    No 55
    Marks Col. F W Hunter Bluff Springs Ala


    6 minnie rifle muskets
    3 Carbines with bayonets
    1 M i j Rifle
    19 Double Barreled Shotguns
    26 Cavalry Equipments

    All of the equipment went to the 2nd Alabama Cavalry at Bluff Springs Ala.

    Any help would be appreciated

    Greg Deese
  2. Shooter45

    Shooter45 *Administrator* Staff Member Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2001
    Here at TFF
    I did a Google search and all I saw was your post on another forum. lol.

    Maybe someone else can help you.


  3. inplanotx

    inplanotx Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Sorry I can't help either, but someone will be along shortly. A big Texas howdy to y'all and welcome to our humble home. Hope you will stay with us and enjoy it as much as we do.

    Could it be Made In Japan Rifle?? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2004
  4. SCTiger

    SCTiger New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    Augusta, Georgia
    Thanks for the welcome

    Guesses so far have been a Madesen-Jensen or a Minie Jaeger, I thought this firearm forum could help :) I don't think it was Made in Japan, if so we will have to change history. Anyways it just bugs me, I get obsessed about little details like this.


    Greg Deese
  5. tuckerd1

    tuckerd1 Moderator Supporting Member

    SCTiger, I see you are from Augusta. There's a damn good smith over there by you in Jackson, SC. Al Dichiara - ACE Systems. Does smithing at his home and at the Savannah River Plant.
  6. SCTiger

    SCTiger New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    Augusta, Georgia
    Thank You

    Everyone can use a good gunsmith, thanks! Now where can I purchase a good M-1 carbine for WII reenacting?

    Greg Deese
  7. tuckerd1

    tuckerd1 Moderator Supporting Member

    Can't help with the M-1. But I bet someone around here can.

    They'll figure out this civil war rifle before they quit.
  8. Marlin

    Marlin *TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor*

    Glad to see you here at TFF, SCTiger.

    Hope you will hang around and join the fun.

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  9. Xracer

    Xracer *TFF Admin Staff Mediator*

    Hi Tiger.....welcome to TFF.

    Closest I can find (in Flayderman's) in the Confederate Longarms section:

    Mendenhall, Jones & Gardner Contract Rifle...styled after the U.S. Model 1841....made under contract for the state of North Carolina. Marked on the lockplate "M.J.&G./NC"

    There's also a "Morse Inside Lock Musket" made by George W. Morse, Greenville, SC in 1864.

    Those are the only ones I could find that might be referred to as "M i j".......however the CSA used a lot of captured U.S. firearms, and purchased a whole bunch of European arms also, so, who knows??????
  10. SCTiger

    SCTiger New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    Augusta, Georgia
    Thanks for the info!

    Only one was issued and I have often wondered about the poor sap that received that weapon, did he get his ammo? If it was a Morse Carbine it would seem rather early for that weapon (1862), the Mendenhall , Jones sounds like a better bet.

    Thanks for all of the help. If I find any more period references I will keep you posted. I may look in the old reference books.

    Greg Deese
  11. dvl

    dvl New Member

    Feb 20, 2005
    Nantucket Island
    Re: Thanks for the info!

  12. astute observer

    astute observer New Member

    Dec 5, 2002
    The Mendenhall, Jones & Gardner sounds very likely. It's unlikely anyone will ever know for sure.
  13. Re: Thank You

    Try a gun show, that would be the best bet. That's where I found mine.
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