If your state(s) seceded, would you be able to buy a full auto?

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  1. Doug.38PR

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    If your homestate seceded tomorrow...that would void any Federal laws regarding firearms.
    I don't know of any law in Texas or Louisiana that forbids fully automatic weapons. Only federal. That would mean that, if say, Texas and Louisiana formed their own confederacy (say Confederate States of Texiana) then gun companies could produce, import and sell to anyone full automatic weapons in those states. In fact...wouldn't this eliminate background checks and paperwork and all that garbage you have to go through now?:cool:

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    There is no state law in Alabama (or Florida) on possession of full autos
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    i vote for texas succession now. revive the REPUBLIC OF TEXAS.











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    I may have to move to Texas if that was to happen;)
  5. Doug.38PR

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    Heck why not a good chunk of the rest of the South along with Texas. Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia (minus atlanta) the Carolinas, upper Florida, outside the Beltway Virginia and Kentucky would make good allies. Carve out all the yankeeized/liberal/metrosexual metropolitan area's and you've got a bunch of Confederate Flag waving "rednecks," farmers, ranchers and other gun loving people with full autos that won't be tread upon.:cool:

    The pseudosophisticates of the city may laugh at us just for being those things...but they aren't going to be the ones to come tread on us (they'll try to find somebody else to do that)
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    I live in a moonbat state (MA). If it seceded from the Union, I'd move out (or escape). I justify my existence here because a small number of us refuse to give up the fight and indeed we've won our share of legislative battles, albeit they are small. Running is easy, but if the war is lost, it's time to cut our losses.
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    If NJ Succeeded it would be to join the Soviets, so I dont dream of that in my case.
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    It is possible for someone to be "sophisticated" and live in the city while still knowing how to shoot and be self-reliant. We mustn't exclude or alienate people simply because they live in a city or suburb. Somebody has to live and work in our cities or we wouldn't have half the things we have and enjoy today (i.e. the cities wouldn't exist).

    I am proud to live in the city (although I grew up in a semi-rural area). There is nothing wrong with it, IMO. I still go to the range all the time and go hiking and practice my 'survival skills' every chance I get.

    By the way, not everyone can afford to live in the boonies (i.e. me).

    Would I like to have a nice patch of land somewhere? Yes, of course. Would I live out there all the time if I had a choice? I don't know. But I would certainly keep the land available in case I needed it.

    If I really had a choice, I would live in an area with lots of land that was just right outside of the city limits so I wouldn't have to live in isolation (and therefore have to pay more for 'essentials') but would still have the land and a tad bit more freedom. Basically, enough land to completely sustain my families lives in a disastrous event would be good.

    (Maybe I would buy some land on the opposite side of a good sized hill; just in case there was some kind of nuclear affair (highly unlikely))

    Moving on...

    I think machine guns would still be illegal in Arkansas although I couldn't find a law specifically criminalizing posession. However, check this stupid **** out:
    Even if this is somehow constitutional, how is this right? Who came up with this law and what were they thinking? Wow... Guilt by association... Guilt by being in the wrong place at the wrong time... (or right place; however you want to look at it) This has to one of the dumbest laws I have ever seen in my life.

    Well, I looked and looked and could not find a law on the books that prohibited the possession or sale of machine guns by the public. Also, it defines a machine gun as "a weapon of any description by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, from which more than five (5) shots or bullets may be rapidly, or automatically, or semi-automatically, discharged from a magazine, by a single function of the firing device; and", so, M16s in standard use by the military aren't even machine guns in Arkansas.

    If you guys can find any Arkansas law that prohibits 'lawful' possession of a machine gun, please let me know. The site is:

    http://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/Searc...CodeSearchResultPage.aspx?name=5-73-201.Title.

    Thanks...

    I vote 'yay' for secession!
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    Yep, NC law just requires that said "machine gun" be registered with the county sheriff's office, and by "machine gun" NC means "machine gun", i.e., a weapon designed for sustained automatic fire.
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    On second thought, I would never have to worry about this. My state would never secede. It's hard to be a socialist "welfare" state without Federal support. Not enough in-state working people like me earning a living to tax.
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    Wait, which state is that? You mean that most of your state's workforce travels out-of-state to their jobs or that your state's unemployment rate is unusually high?
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    Doug, I like the thought of Texiana. We can hold New Orleans hostage and threaten to send it to the U.S. should the U.S. want to retaliate. ;) :D


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  14. Doug.38PR

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    Sorry MrDontCryMrJefferson,
    Glad to hear you live in the city and still know how to shoot. I am from the city (barf). Note I said pseudosophisticates. The element of the city is what gave us all these liberal socialisit and antigun laws we have today. The reason not everyone can afford to live in the country is because modernity has steered life into everybody being a part of a centralized system. The country shifted from Agrarian to urbanization. This I think took a lot of the appreciation of liberty away from people of this land. Stuffed in the cities they believe themselves to be sophisticated simply because they are there (as said I grew up in the city. I've lived most of my life around such people....in fact...I used to be such a person) Cities have drained the land of culture. There is no culture. Nobody in the cities has any roots. Everybody is from somewhere else. Familiar accents, community and worldview are absent. Neighbors are closer to each other in rural areas where they are a half a mile apart than they are in the city 6 feet apart in apartments and even in the suburbs where they are 10 yards apart. In the cities you mention "gun interest" or even "skeet shooting" and get scared and look at you like you might kill something. In rural areas, people hear you shooting next door and they walk or drive over and want to join you and know what you are shooting.


    Thomas Jefferson, 1784

    While some kind of cities are good for trade centers and for importing goods. This urbanization where most of the country is stuffed in metropolitan centers is far from the vision of the best our country has had to offer over the past 400 years.
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    Actually...your state tried it twice before. Worked out great the first time. Maintained it's principles the second time.

    the Christian Exodus movement seems a little grand dios...but I admire the effort. A Christian nation would mean elimination of the income tax (taxing on the fruit of your labor), the RTKBA (because government is to be feared rather than trusted as it is made up of imperfect men), little goverment (because Christians fear God rather than men), no environmental laws (because Christians believe in taking dominion or being fruitful over the earth not worshipping it), no government banning prayer in public, no established church would run the government (because Christians are made up of MANY denominations), local communities would be sovereign and autonomous instead not subjegated by a central government (because Christians believe in no King but Jesus). All the Founding Fathers except your namesake and Ben Franklin were professing Protestant Christians of seveal denominations. They fought for the freedoms we enjoy and are slowly losing. Those are the ally's you want

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