Incandescent light bulbs

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by armedandsafe, Dec 14, 2011.

  1. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Guest

  2. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    when they banned ( yes banned, but this is OZ with a socialist government , we also have a carbon tax here now as well ) regular bulbs, i stocked up.. ( 144 in a big box)

    seen enough of mercury to stay well away from it and the main light i use of a night time is a 60 watt and a 9 bulb LED USB powered light for over the keyboard and to read by

    screw the greens

  3. Albtraum

    Albtraum Well-Known Member

    Jun 8, 2011
    Hmm... 60 watt incandescent or a 13 watt compact flourescent? Hour by hour, day by day, month by month, flourescent lights save a tremendous amount of kilowatts that would otherwise be wasted energy. 13 watt CFLs also produce more lumens than a 60 watt incandescent and come in a variety of wavelengths, from the mucky "yellow" incandescent color everyone is used to, to pure white and ultra white which looks blue at first. It is a great idea to upgrade from incandescents.

    Now, time for a rant. Light pollution is a problem in America, not a big one but could easily be fixed by the flip of some switches. Think of all the unnecessary outdoor lamps that are always on... Parking lots and car dealerships brightly lit up at 3am. What for? Street lights along roads are lit up already by car headlights. When in a city or suburb, you look up at the night sky and see a pinkish or brownish hue from all the electricty going to waste. You might be able to make out a dozen of the brightest stars... Whereas when you guys were younger, you could see hundreds if not thousands of stars and the band of a spiral arm in the Milky Way. Nowadays you have to be 50-100 miles from a city to see that. It sucks for future generations who only see sights like that in a textbook. Now, you may not care about stars or any of this, but know that most outdoor lights are completely unnecessary. Those lights burn up countless kilowatts year and year and in return, attribute to pollution.
  4. RunningOnMT

    RunningOnMT New Member

    Nov 19, 2008
    Akron, Ohio
    Awhile back I caved in and bought two of these new light bulbs to try them out. I wanted "full spectrum' lights and this was all I could find. Promising myself to be extra careful not to break one, a thought occurred to me, "what do I do with them when they burn out?" I mean after all, if one has to go to extremes to clean up a broken bulb, you wouldn't want to simply throw them in the trash. So I called my local health department and asked about disposal. I was told to first place the bulb inside a paper bag and then into a regular plastic trash bag then out for the weekly trash collection. "Are you kidding me", I said. "Tell me how that will keep the environment protected from mercury contamination?" All they could say is they had no special plans for disposal, even though congress has determined that we must start using them.

    Apparently their rationale is that energy savings will be significant when these bulbs are in universal use, and that will mean burning less coal which will mean fewer contaminants, including mercury, emitted into the environment. But think of the millions of discarded mercury containing bulbs, which will inevitably lie broken in some landfill. So in typical congressional fashion, they "solve" a problem by creating a bigger one.

    Our environment is already contaminated by mercury to the point where the FDA advises not to eat tuna more than once or twice a month and pregnant women not at all. So no thanks, I'm stocking up on incandescents while I still can.
  5. ampaterry

    ampaterry *TFF Admin Staff Chaplain* Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    West Tennessee
    We switched the church to 100% CFL lighting several years ago. With 29 bulbs needed, the cost was a consideration, to be sure. BUT we replaced all those 60 watt incandescents with 27 watt CFL's that give MUCH more light (100 watt equivelant) while using less than half the KW. We absolutely saw a reduction in the monthly electric bill, true, but the MAJOR difference we have seen is the reduced requirement for bulb replacement. I just replaced one that had burned out last Sunday, and it was the first one in many months that has burned out. With incandescents, I was replacing at LEAST one every other week or so -

    We were so happy with them, in fact, that we switched the home to 100% CFL as well.
    We are very pleased to have the same results here; more light, less money.
    BUT there were two major problems with them:
    1. The bulb shape is such that some fixtures had to be modified or replaced to allow the use of the CFL bulbs.
    2. Three way CFL bulbs are EXTREMELY expensive - AND they do NOT LAST! We burned one out in just a couple weeks, and replaced it under warrantee. It burned out in another couple weeks, and we just gave up on it for about a year. I figured they probably had the bugs out of them by then, and bought another one - which again burned out in just a couple weeks.

    Other than those two problems, we are very pleased with the CFL's.

    As to the government ban on incandescents - I am opposed to it. Everyone should be free to make their OWN decisions on this.
  6. cpttango30

    cpttango30 Guest

    I hate all forums of forescent lights that give me headaches. The flickering bothers my eyes. Plus as a tech guy I spend 12 hours a day staring at a computer screen between that and Flo lights it really hurts somedays.
  7. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk New Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    South Central Texas
    I'm thinking of farmers who use light bulbs for heat source. Are they going to
    have to buy 600 watt electric heaters were they used to use 100 to 200
    heats lamps. Chicks need constant heat source.
  8. Whiskey

    Whiskey New Member

    Oct 17, 2011
    These lights they want us to use seem to last just as long as the incandescents I have noticed. They want us to use fluorescent lights that take a few minutes to get up to wattage, hurt our eyes and vision, hazardous to our health if broke open, cause headaches, etc etc etc. This all has been proven before but now they are tight lipped about it...funny. Yep makes sense to get rid of the healthy lights to save. The incandescents I buy last a long time so I do not see how people are complaining that they are changing them every week.
  9. RunningOnMT

    RunningOnMT New Member

    Nov 19, 2008
    Akron, Ohio
    Some of us heat up our chicks the old fashioned way. :lmao2: Sorry, couldn't resist.
  10. jstgsn

    jstgsn Well-Known Member

    Nov 1, 2009
    Milford, Delaware
    Little surprised to see a post saying we have a "light problem in this country" re albtrum's post. I've looked at pictures of the earth and they show North Korea compared to other countries, it's all dark, cause they live in a communist cess pool. I would rather they light up our country with old style lighting, not that I'm against saving a buck or two, but I'm not all that happy to have a planet full of mercury. Kinda like eating fish more often.
    anyway, going to go out and run the air conditioner and heater at full blast for a while. Got every light in the house on too. (and the cars running in the back yard.) Gotta do what I can.
  11. raven818

    raven818 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2011
    Jax, Fl.
    Burning less coal won't be possible. When Barry is done, there won't be any coal mines. He and katherine sebeius intend to shut them all down.
  12. Clipper

    Clipper Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2010
    Amarillo, TX
    Any time "congrease" gets in your house, watch out! Remember the big toilet threat some years back? Seems we needed Uncle Sam to save our precious water by regulating the toilets. Now, the 1.6 GPF is the law of the land, and in usually only takes three flushes to get the things to carry down, as opposed to the old potties that would flush everything on the first pull.

    CFL's may be another millstone around our carbon threatened necks!
  13. Millwright

    Millwright Well-Known Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    I'm a fan of CFL's but still have some incandescents, too ! Mostly my CFLs/flourescents get used for long-term "on". The incandescents get used for the "off/on" aps ! Now ain't that exactly the pogrom - at least until the greenies go involved - envisioned ? >MW
  14. ampaterry

    ampaterry *TFF Admin Staff Chaplain* Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    West Tennessee
    Since I was raised and schooled back in the 50's when we were taught we were going into another Ice Age, I deeply appreciate your efforts to stave that off - -

  15. ofitg

    ofitg Active Member

    Feb 25, 2010
    When I was reading up on this subject last year, I got the impression that the new law will phase out "common" incandescent bulbs, but "specialty" incandescent bulbs (spotlights, for example) will not be affected.
    I'm guessing that heat lamps fall into the "specialty" category.

    Good luck to anybody who ever tries to use his Chrony indoors - they don't work under fluorescent lights.
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