Infallible 32ACP Pistol

Discussion in 'Curio & Relics Forum' started by cointoss2, Mar 3, 2003.

  1. maugwie

    maugwie New Member

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    I have a german model in good condition i would like to sell. it is missing the magazine, but otherwise is in good working condition, has the mag release on the bottom. it is not the infalible it is the actual w.a. schwartszlose 32 caliber, not made in america.
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  2. jack404

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    Welcome to TFF maugwie ! you can post a free ad for it here in the sale trade area if you wish , a pic or two would help as well

    cheers !
  3. Lanrezac

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    Just so the folks above know how important they are...this thread is the only reference footnoted in the Wikipedia article about the Warner Davis Infallible. It badly needs editing (hint, hint). Not this thread - the article.
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  4. sonnyboy

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    My thanks to ampaterry for the scanned article. :thumbsup:

    I just bought [won] one of these on an online auction site.

    Still trying to figure out how to disassemble these...Doesn't seem to be any instructions anywhere...Except this...

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  5. ampaterry

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    Your welcome, and I am glad you found it useful.

    I no longer have access to one of these interesting pistols, so I am unable to try to help you figure out the disassembly of one.

    Some of the others here DO have them, and I am sure they will ring in with explicit instructions.
  6. ej38

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    i have an infallible. recently purchased.i would like to get into mine without destroying it! hope someone comes up with instructions. i have a question, from what i have found the last serial no. should be app. 7300. mine is # 7572. wonder how this happened ?????
    they had several on *** ****** last week. DON"T LIKE THIS CROWD! had bad deals with them. GUN AUCTION is where i purchased mine.
    i am lost on this sight. to old for computers. i wanted this on the infallible discussion, if any one knows how to move it,i would appreciate it.
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  7. Lanrezac

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    sonnyboy's post of 10/11/2012 on the previous page contained a tiny picture of instructions for taking apart the two main versions of the Infallible. If you click on it, it gets slightly bigger, but you really need to adjust your browser to enlarge it to 250% or so to make it readable. That is easy if you use Chrome as your browser (click on the stack-of-pancakes looking thing in the upper right), but not if you are using something else. Sorry.

    Donald Simmons wrote an excellent article about the Infallible in the 1975 Guns Illustrated, which is for sale (used) on Amazon for about $6, including shipping. It can also be read online here:

    http://terryspictures.homestead.com/

    but once again, you may have to enlarge it to read it easily. It does not include takedown instructions, unfortunately.

    Some Infallibles with the rotating catch on the bolt for dismantling cannot be gotten apart because the recoil spring rods have peened too much for the bolt to come out. The Infallible was about the worst designed automatic pistol ever made, and the mediocre quality of manufacture didn't help anything. The frame is cast iron, BTW, which I believe is unique in automatic pistols.

    PS - I have no explanation for your serial number. People who are interested in these pistols would probably much appreciate it if you could put up pictures of your gun and its serial number.
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  8. ej38

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    thanks, lanrezac. i looked this up. evidently i'm not set up for this. as many people as needs this, hope sonnyboy will make it larger. as far as the picture of my gun, be glad to post picture when i can get HELP. when i grew up there was one battery operated radio within five miles.this was not ours! i still live in this era.
  9. ej38

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    i'm proud of my old self. i blew up insert and wrote it down, printed the magazine article.now i am ready to attempt dissembling mine. that is when i get up enough courage, or drunk enough. thank you all for your help!!! hope to get picture of mine on shortly.
  10. Lanrezac

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    Yep, when I was a kid an AM-only transistor radio the size of half a brick was a marvel. Sometimes what I expect to be able to do on the Internet just stuns me.

    I should have said that the Infallible is not too hard to get apart (or back together) if you have the kind with the push-through pin in the bolt head. In fact, it is really too easy, because that pin and a little steel finger on the frame below the bolt are all that hold the bolt IN when the gun is fired.

    Don Simmons, the author of the article you printed out, wrote a piece looking back on his personal history with guns. An Infallible was one of the first pistols he bought. I believe it fired one shot and then never worked again.
  11. soundguy

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    never seen one before and just happened to see one at a show today. interesting pistol.
  12. ej38

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    my grandson was over yesterday, we couldn't figure out how to post pictures of my S. N. 7572 gun. don't give up. if i can ever get my daughter over, we'll get it on. it is the same configuration and about same shape as the pictures posted on page 1.
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  13. ej38

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    Finally got the pictures attached for the Infallible with stock number 7572

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    any answers on the post 7xxx #'s?
  15. ej38

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    to lanrezac, hope these will help you and others. my theory is after the run was over, they continued producing until all parts were used up. if not the researchers needs to go back to the drawing board.
    to jim k on post no.2, these came with 2 seven shot magazines.the company had the brass to advertise these as 8 and16 shots in one article. that is 1 in chamber + 7 and second magazine + 1 in chamber + 7 WOW A 16 shot pistol!!! wonder if anyone ever got all shots off without the thing breaking?
  16. Lanrezac

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    That's good looking Infallible, ej38. The frames always look that way, because cast iron can't be blued, but the steel parts of yours look pretty good.

    As to the serial number, all I can say is that Simmon's article is almost 40 years old, and it's still the most thorough piece I know of about the Infallible. Probably right after he wrote it, people began finding guns with higher serial numbers than he had found. Odds are, he was just plain wrong about where the serial numbers ended.

    Publishing something not only gets information out to people, it also causes new information to be found, as people learn that what they have is unusual or hitherto unknown, like ej38's gun.

    Aside from Simmon's autobiographical article, I have never read an account of a person firing an Infallible. All the writing about them strongly advises against it. BTW, they have another unique quality - they are about the only pistol that can stand up on a flat surface. I don't know if they advertised that or not!
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  17. soundguy

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    i wonder about fireing one with a reduced load, like using trailboss at 70% fill?
  18. ej38

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    jarrett, tried to reach you by e mail about infallible firing pin.cant get through on the e mail address you have. do you have another way we can communicate ?
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