Inherited WW2 Japanese Rifle

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  1. Aimeriffic

    Aimeriffic New Member

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    Hi I just wanted to get a sense if what the value of the rifle I inherited is, and what else I may need to get so I can have it be complete. As of now all I have is the rifle and cleaning rod. Nothing has been done to change the rifle since my grandpa came home with it after the war. We do not have the strap or the bayonette. He also took pretty good care of it, although he didn't shoot it, he did keep it oiled over the years. The bolt action works great and I would like to keep it and bring it up to collector standard with all the accessories. The chrysanthemum has an x across it but is not filed off, nothing is rusted at all but the wood is kinda scratched. The number on the side is 98642.. Along with some Asian symbols. All numbered parts have 642 on them. I am having an issue uploading photos...
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    What you have is a Arisaka rifle. From your description it is hard to guess more, pictures will help identify which model. Look at posts for the Arisaka for an idea of value.
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    the shorter carbines are type 38 6.5 jap the longer ones are type 99 7.7 jap
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    Aimeriffic New Member

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    The ammo he had from the same time frame is 7.7... So I'm guessing it must be 99 then... If I bought new ammo... After having the gun looked over would it be bad to shoot it?
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    just a bit of history for you... the 7.7 was the standard sniper rifle..also when lead became scarce the Japanese carved wooden bullets and reloaded their emptys sometimes using powder from american shells! many GI's were shot and killed with these carved bullets! My father was shot twice with wooden bullets..the 2nd time he managed to get the sniper and his buddys scooped the rifle and they later sent it back to the states for him. I still regret allowing that rifle out of my hands. it was very accurate! recoil wasnt bad and would take about any game in North America. it was a 7.7..would love to get my hands on another!
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    I definitely plan on making sure it doesn't go anywhere... Mainly I'm just curious about how to make it complete with all the missing pieces, we pulled out the cleaning rod and apparently that is broken so I guess I need that too... Basically my grandpa said its missing the bayonet, the strap and needs a new cleaning rod, he also said it has the option for the anti aircraft sites. I just have no clue where to find stuff that is authentic... I basically want to make it as close to what it was when it was new without changing it too much... And of course we want to shoot it... I am kinda leery of the ammo he gave me as its about the same age as the gun is... And I was curious of the value because I didn't want to decrease the value by shooting it...
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    it's pretty common to find the 'aa' sights missing the fold out arms....
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    You won't decrease the value of the gun by shooting it, but if the ammo is ww2 vintage, I'd save it. You have a type 99 rifle, in 7.7 Jap. It appears to be in decent shape. The value is in the $300 to $400 range. Bayonets can be had for $100-$125. An original monopod will set you back a couple hundred dollars as will an original strap. You do have the dust cover, which is usually missing because they rattle, as I'm sure you noticed, and were often discarded in the field. Need a better image of the stamping to the left of the serial number to give the year of manufacture.
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    Her are some pics of the ammo... It would be great to get info about it:

    http://pbckt.com/pU.RpMAGh

    Box 1
    http://pbckt.com/pU.RpMAmC

    http://pbckt.com/pU.RpMAIT

    http://pbckt.com/pU.RpMW79

    Box 2
    http://pbckt.com/pU.RpMiLB

    http://pbckt.com/pU.RpM4Gy

    http://pbckt.com/pU.RpMWzK

    http://pbckt.com/pU.RpMWy1

    I have no idea what year the ammo is from could be anything from 1942-1980?

    Thank you for your input!

    Here are pictures the symbols that were hard to see in the previous post:

    http://pbckt.com/pU.RpMfn7

    http://pbckt.com/pU.RpMH20

    Part of the reason I was given this rifle is because I own firearms and I am really interested in history and the stories about rifles like these (thank you hunter). Any anecdotal information about ww2, these rifles and others like it, how they came to be, etc is amazing...
    I spoke with a friend this evening who also has an arisaka rifle, however the chrysanthemum on his was machined off whereas mine is crossed off... He said that had to do with how they were attained... Surrendered rifles had been machined, but McCarthy asked American soldiers who had aquired them in battle and were bringing them home as souveniers, to make a mark on the chrysanthemum out of respect for Japan's Emperor and as part of their peace agreement... Is this true? And if so is there anymore information about this anyone has?

    Also I would like to find the following parts:
    Monopod
    Strap
    Anti-aircraft sights
    Cleaning rod (mine is broken ~3/4 down the rod)
    Bayonet
    Shootable Ammo

    I would like to know where a good place is online to start searching for authentic items for a fair price. I live in CA so gun stores arent exactly that common. Thank you for the general pricing for most of this stuff... Any recommended resources for acquiring these items is wonderful!

    Thank you!

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    You would think, that the Japanese would have a hard time resizing the cartridge and getting primers. Also since a wood bullet would only travel a few feet ( because of the density or rather the lack of density ) the sniper would have to be very close, perhaps only a few feet away, wood bullets were used for indoor training and for enclosed ranges for that very reason. If IRC that the training loads ( wooden bullets ) were fired with reduced loads because with normal loads nothing left the barrel but toothpicks, but I could be wrong, been wrong before. Just wondering.
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  13. Danjet500

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    Here is the place to ask your questions about Japanese rifles. There is also a classifieds for Japanese military items.

    http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?52-Firearms-Of-The-Rising-Sun
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    The ammo will be fine if it was stored in a dry place. I just fired off some quite old black powder rounds - no problem.
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