Interesting reading! "POWS"

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  1. inplanotx

    inplanotx New Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Posts: 3
    (2/2/02 1:35:38 pm)
    Reply Interesting reading! "POWS"
    The letter discussed below was written by Robin Higgins (LtCol USMC
    > (Ret)), the widow of Col Rich Higgins.> Jim Higgins
    > Detainees are not real POWs By Debbie Schlussel
    > (c) 2002 A lot of morons need to read Robin Higgins'
    > letter. And as they decide the legal status of Taliban prisoners in
    > Guantanamo Bay, President Bush and his staff need to read it, too. The
    > morons are journalism professors, civil-rights attorneys, and several
    > international organizations parading as champions of human rights, who are
    > legally challenging U.S. treatment of Taliban terrorist captives. Those
    > groups include the European Union, the Netherlands (including Dutch
    > Affairs Minister Jozias van Aartsen), Amnesty International and the
    > International Committee of the Red Cross. Retired Lt. Col. Robin Higgins,
    > wife of the late U.S. Marine Col. William R. "Rich" Higgins, wrote a
    > must-read letter in Friday's USA Today.
    > Col. Higgins was captured by Islamic terrorist group Hezbollah in Lebanon
    > 1988. Hezbollah - the third largest component of bin Laden's al-Qaida
    > network, according to the Wall Street Journal - proudly displayed his
    > hanging beaten body. Years of repeated brutal torture resulted in his July
    > 1990 murder.
    > Where were these intellectual-elite lights of our world when Col. Higgins
    > was being tortured by al-Qaida's Hezbollah? Where were Amnesty
    > International, the Red Cross, Europe, and the U.N. - for whom he was
    > employed as a peacekeeper in Lebanon? Not a peep. Ditto for their
    > silence over kidnapped Beirut U.S. Embassy-based CIA Chief William
    > transferred by Hezbollah to Iran, and similarly tortured and bludgeoned to
    > death.
    > The only parties Mrs. Higgins did hear from were U.S. State Department and
    > other government officials who insisted her husband - unarmed as a U.N.
    > Peacekeeper - was not a prisoner of war, but merely a detainee, not
    > to any human rights or their help.
    > Where was former Attorney General Ramsey Clark when Col. Higgins was
    > worse than an animal by the sadistic animals of al-Qaida's Hezbollah? Too
    > busy sitting that one out because it didn't fit his radical anti-American
    > agenda the way Taliban prisoners do. Amnesty International and the Red
    > Cross? With their selective, disgustingly political "commitment" to human
    > rights, Higgins somehow wasn't worthy of their support.
    > But under the Geneva Convention, the Taliban prisoners aren't POWs, and
    > Higgins - who wasn't treated so - was. POWs are defined as soldiers who
    > uniforms, carried their weapons openly, have a recognized hierarchy, and
    > subscribe to the international norms of warfare.
    > The Taliban fighters match none of this. Can someone please describe the
    > uniform of Taliban soldiers - other than filth, vitriol and disdain? As
    > their weapons, they often hid those like cowards, unless you count the
    > they often bare to bite people. Flying planes full of innocent people into
    > buildings and cutting off the feet of women whose ankles were exposed -
    > that's hardly an international norm of warfare, as much as they'd like it
    > be. There was hardly an orderly identifiable Taliban hierarchy. With
    > Omar running things at bin Laden's behest, per Ayman el-Zawahiri's
    > instructions to him, it was more like a junta gang of a few - at the top,
    > propagandizing a lot of lethal thugs who decapitate, amputate, torture and
    > bite - at the bottom. Contrast that with Col. Higgins. This man was a hero
    > and an outstanding American, withstanding years of torture and losing his
    > life to protect the very Lebanese and Palestinians who repaid him thusly.
    > was one of seven U.S. Marine Corps officers assigned to the U.N.
    > Peacekeeping Force in Lebanon in 1987. "He wore a uniform, had a
    > hierarchy and subscribed to the international norms of warfare - although
    > a United Nations peacekeeper, he was unarmed," Mrs. Higgins wrote.
    > Besides further disgracing this country and Col. Higgins' memory, there is
    > absolutely no reason to give Taliban prisoners any more rights than they
    > have already been generously granted. The only reason they were kept alive
    > and brought here is to get information out of them about other terrorists
    > and possible attacks. To ascribe to them POW status would defeat that
    > purpose. Under the Geneva Convention, the prisoners would only be required
    > to give us their name, rank and serial number, and no further information.
    > As detainees, they don't have that right and others. But still more rights
    > than Col. Higgins ever got under their terror network's "authority."
    > Taliban prisoners are treated better here than people in their own
    country -
    > or surrounding Communist Cuba. They are receiving three square meals a
    > medical care, clothing, shelter, showers, Arabic translators, mail and the
    > right and opportunity to pray five times a day to Allah to destroy
    > The very fact they are receiving any of this is an abomination and
    > perversion of the memory of Higgins, who was given none of these things
    > during his years of torture at the hands of their ilk. And who had none of
    > the worldly "human dignity" champions that these murderous thugs now
    enjoy -
    > even while they try to bite and murder our personnel at the temporary
    > prison.
    > "I know that even as he was dying of torture, abandoned by the Red Cross,
    > and the United Nations, he thought of himself as a POW. I'm also sure he
    > thought his country did, too," Mrs. Higgins laments. The terrorists being
    > held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba are not POWs. Col. Higgins was. That he was
    > treated otherwise is disgusting. That others would champion the rights of
    > his tormentors' buddies is doubly so.

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    (2/2/02 3:42:31 pm)
    Reply Re: Interesting reading! "POWS"
    Interesting name, BLACK GUNS--welcome. Less than a week about I saw that little squirril, Ramsey Clark chewing on some commentators microphone--wild eyed and raving!!! How does such a pitiful person live so long---and why? wilborn

    Posts: 6
    (2/3/02 12:22:35 pm)
    Reply Re: Interesting reading! "POWS"
    Just cal me BG for short! Everyone does! I have heard a lot of good things about you John! I can hardly wait to read some of your stories. About the lil fellow in the post! Why somethings are allowed to happen are indeed a mystery!
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