Israel and the Palestinians

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  1. carver

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    How does a person become a Palestinian? There is no such country!
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    The region known as Palestine dates to antiquity and encompassed much of the area. And there ARE Palestinian people. But they are such largely because of their ties to the area. Surprisingly, a large percentage of Palestinian Muslim Arabs and Israeli Jews are closely related genetically. The idea of an actual independent Palestinian state came much, much later, and while officially recognized by most of the world, is obviously still heavily contested in the region.
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    If you look up Palestinian in the dictionary, it is the same as the phillistines, which was and still is bad news for the Israelis.
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    The region known as Palestine was bought, and paid for, by King David. The land belongs to Israel. A Palestinian is nothing more than a muslim moving in on what rightfully belongs to Israel, but was taken from them. A Palestinian can come from any muslim country, and they have no ties to the Gaza strip before they moved in there! And the purpose is to keep from Israel what is rightfully theirs. Any muslim will tell you that Israel has to go, and that all Jews must die. For that matter all Christians must die too! So how do you become a Palestinian?
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    Arguing over who got to some patch of dirt first is pointless. What counts is: Can you hold what you've got?
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    Gunny, I agree with you up to a point. I know that if you can't hold it, you loose it. But legally speaking, the land belongs to Israel. There are two factions working against Israel here. One is war, and the other is in the courts of the world. They can hold it in one scenario, and loose it in the other. Israel is important to those of us who believe in the Bible. We believe that as Israel goes, so goes the world.
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    Who's 'legality'? By your logic, the people who inhabited that land before the Jews would have a 'legal' claim also, would they not?

    PS: While I respect your beliefs (and those of other cultures, past, present and future), I'm not inclined to argue on that basis. :)
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    Legally speaking, this land belongs to the native americans.
    Based on THAT nonsense, the whole world would be topsy-turvy.
    Gunny's right, and frankly I think it's high time the Israelies just showed the world what they have learned from the rest of us, as Shakespeare pointed out in 'The Merchant of Venice', and as Shylock said "better the instruction".
    Arguing with the Bible to a Muslim is useless, arguing with a gun is the only constructive take, for Muslims hold no honor towards any other peoples.
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    Then the Romans still own it. They vacated at the collapse of the empire, not through any victories of the Israelits...

    No matter what Israel does, the Palestinians will never be happy.. and they call us the barbarians!?!
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    Kinda like if a bunch of libtards got together and wanted say, Chicago, as their Country. They boot everyone that's not a libtard out and call it.....Obozoland. Now it's not Chicago it's Obozoland, free to do what they want independant of the United States and their called Obozoanians. Wait a minute.......:eek:hmygosh: :banghead:
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    God gave the land to Israel, but through their stubborn disobedience and foolishness they lost it, and now they have to take it back and keep it.
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    An interesting idea, but when their form of Govt doesn't work,(as we know will happen) they will just cross the border, and demand benefits.
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    He didn't buy the whole area, he bought the land where the temple was built. A muslim victory mosque now stands on that site. 2 Samuel 24:24 However, the Jewish people have always had a population in this land. It was never abandonded, just occupied by different Nations, over thousands of years. This land was given to the people of Israel, and God will keep his word, and they will occupy it again. The question though is, how does a person become a palestinian? If there is no country called Palestine, then obviously, now one can be from there.
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