Iver Johnson Hammerless design number

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  1. Helix_FR

    Helix_FR Active Member

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    Bill you may have remember asking about the extractor on this one but a little background info would be appreciated.
    Its a Iver Johnson Hammerless .38S&W with a 3 1/4 barrel. Blued finish (even though it looks like black chrome to me) serial number D-091-7971-0724-2672 The D could be a really poorly electopenciled A. I need to know the design change so I can get the right extractor as you noted in a previous post.
    Thanks for the help
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    b.goforth New Member

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    the serial number you note is way two long for an iver johnson safety automatic revolver. where is this found? the main serial number should be under the grips on the left side. information also needed; what does the top latch look like, what does the hammer spring look like, and what are all the marking and where are they found.

    bill
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    I'll get that stuff. The number I found was electro penciled under the cylinder on the bottom frame strap. I'll get a picture to help out. Thanks for the reply.
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    b.goforth New Member

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    that is not the serial number. look under the left grip panel.

    bill
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    Thanks for your help on this Bill
    Serial Number is 1086x
    I removed the cover so you can see the hammer.

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    b.goforth New Member

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    this revolver was manufactured between 1895 and 1896 and is a second model safety automatic hammerless model.
    bill
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    this revolver was manufactured between 1895 and 1896 and is a second model safety automatic hammerless model.

    SECOND MODEL SAFETY AUTOMATIC HAMMERLESS REVOLVER
    (Black Powder Cartridges)------------- -–1896-1908
    LARGE FRAME AND SMALL FRAME VERSIONS USES HAMMER THE HAMMER ACTION: Double top post barrel latch, Hammer the Hammer action, nickel finish with blue optional, two frame sizes and three calibers. Hard rubber grip panels with Owls head at top. Calibers: small frame .22 rimfire with 7 rounds cylinder capacity, .32 centerfire with 5 rounds cylinder capacity; Standard barrel length: small frame 3 inches, large frame 3 ¼ inches; Weight: small frame with 3 inch barrel .22 rimfire 12 ½ ounces, .32 centerfire 13 ½ ounces, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 17 ¾ ounces; Height: small frame 3 ¾ inches, large frame 3 7/8 inches; Frame length: small frame 4 3/16 inches, large frame 5 inches; Overall all length: small frame with 3 inch barrel 6 3/8 inches, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 7 3/8 inches. Main serial number location on left side of grip frame grips must be removed to see. The Second Model features a double top post barrel latch, flat leaf hammer spring and two cross pins in the lower frame.
    VALUE: 100%=$285 60%=$150
    For revolvers equipped with Bourne Knuckleduster add 100%


    bill
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    Thanks Bill. This one seems to be a .38 S&W. I'm assuming black powder?
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