Jew,Christian, Mormon, a childs question

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  1. RunningOnMT

    RunningOnMT New Member

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    Josh, As with discussions I've had with Terry, I understand your point to an extent, but then again I don't. If it's permissible to state ones beliefs, and part of ones beliefs is the belief about what defines a Christian, how is it not acceptable to state it?

    Wait, OK, you are saying that you can state what beliefs define a Christian, but you just can't specify who doesn't meet that definition?

    P.S. Just wanted to state once again that I hold no ill will toward Mormon. They seem to me, to a man (or woman), to always be well behaved men and women of character. It was never my intention to pronounce condemnation on any individual, only on a doctrine. It is my hope that all would accept the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

    As this discussion applies to the upcoming election, Mitt Romney's faith will not keep me from voting for him. As one of my favorite pastors, John MacArthur, said recently, " You're voting for president, not pastor".
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  2. KenV

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    VEry well. But I had no idea you were looking for a debate. You simply stated that you consider the Mormon view of Satan to be nonbelievable. I'm fine with that. I was just wondering what your beliefs were with respect to Satan. I have no interest in "debating" about who's belief is "true."

    However I will correct anyone who makes (false) claims about what Mormons believe.
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    I'm sorry. I did not understand your reply. Would you mind clarifying?
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    It is? If you say so. But I personally know hundreds of people who have made covenants with God and have kept them. Essentially the whole Old Testament is about God making covenants with his people. Noah covenanted with God. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob covenanted with God and the rest of the old testament is an account of the success and failure of the following generations to keep that covenant.

    Fascinating. I had no idea, not the slightest clue, that some folks believe that covenants are one way only. I always viewed covenants as two way, between God and man, and between man and God. God ALWAYS keeps his end of the covenant. Man, much less so.

    But I believe I can covenant to take upon me Christ's name through baptism. And that by striving to keep that covenant my heart will be changed, I can become a "new man", and be accepted of him.

    I did not follow that at all.

    Maybe the problem is one of definition. Perhaps your definition of covenant is different than mine. To me a covenant is two-way promise. God makes promises to me and I make promises to God. I don't see that as being "self-righteous" at all. To me that's the heart and soul of Christianity: to strive to shake off the natural man and put on the new man. If I strive to keep my side of the covenant, my offering will be acceptable to God and he will change my heart. And a changed heart is the only way we have to accept the gift of salvation and exaltation He offers.
  5. RYANINMICHIGAN

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    Sure targetacqmgt did not deny my statement that Mormons believe they can achieve a God like state and have a planet to rule over. You on the other hand flatly deny it.
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    The covenant of Jesus' blood is the new covenant that renders the old testement obsolete. There is but one covenant between man and God and it is Jesus' blood.
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    76Highboy Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Here's my reply.

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  8. Double D

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    ;);):D:D:p
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    And this is why I no longer visit the religious forum. Ever since my last argument I got in with a guy who's no longer a member. Every doctrine reads something different from the bible. I for one am Pentecostal. We believe in speaking in tongues. Some call us evil for this. If you are one of those you can p!$$ off right now, don't want to hear it. We also believe in the trinity, however we believe the trinity to be 3 separate beings. We do not believe that Jesus is GOD. We believe that GOD is GOD, and that Jesus is his son. Don't like that either, tough, don't want to hear how we're wrong on that either. Your not gonna convince me anyways. And just so you know, I have just as many scriptures proving my point as you do proving yours. Ok

    We will all know soon enough. True not all doctrines can be correct. However I don't believe the path to heaven follows a doctrine. I believe it follows Jesus Christ.

    When all of us that follow Christ are in heaven we can all get together and say na na na na na I was right and you were wrong:D

    And now that I have made my tri-monthly trek to the religious forums I am going back to the rest of the board. Keep arguing guys, I can see your really making headway:rolleyes:
  10. carver

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    You can prove anything you want to from the scriptures, as long as you take them out of context! That is why there are so many different bibles, religions, and doctrines! How many people really know how to devide the Word of God? Everybody?
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    And they come here in the form of a troll.

    But notice how they don't last long.

    I'm starting to see why I refused to have this forum for so many years.
  12. Double D

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    He came here and basically put everyone in their place, all but took over Terrys forum and made sure that everyone knew mormons were the only ones correctly dividing scripture, and had no interest in discussing firearms whatsoever. Oh, and he voted for obama. Yea, I see what you mean Sam, its getting harder and harder.
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