Joe Legal vs. Jose Illegal

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  1. 358 winchester

    358 winchester *TFF Admin Staff*

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    Joe Legal vs. Jose Illegal

    Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically productive for the State of California...
    You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California.
    "Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted...."Jose Illegal" also works in construction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".
    Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year
    Now take 30% away for state federal tax
    Joe Legal now has $31,231.00


    Jose Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year
    Jose Illegal pays no taxes...
    Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00


    Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage
    $1000.00 per month
    $12,000.00 per year
    Joe Legal now has $19,231.00


    Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year
    Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00


    Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare
    Joe Legal pays for food
    $1,000.00 per month
    $12,000.00 per year
    Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00


    Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare
    Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00


    Joe Legal pays rent of
    $1,000.00 per month
    $12,000.00 per year
    Joe Legal is now in the hole... minus (-) $4,769.00


    Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy
    Jose Illegal pays rent
    $500.00 per month
    $6,000.00 per year
    Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00


    Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.


    Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.


    Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch.


    Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.
    Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.


    Don't vote/support any politician that supports illegal aliens...
    Its PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
  2. Bobitis

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    AND....
    Joe Legal being the upstanding tax payer he is, makes too much money to send his kids to college. Even tho he's in the hole financially for doing the right thing, he gets no help. Jose Illegals kids get a free ride cuz he gots no income.

    Home much is college tuition where you're at?

    Ain't it grand to pay the illegals way while your family suffers?:mad:
  3. OBrien

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    Its the NEW American way.
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    That sound of rushing water is America going down the toilet. Whenever doing things the right way is less advantagious than ignoring thr law, a society is in deep, deep doo!
  5. Silencer

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    Who the hell pays an illegal $15 an hour? Not in this state, bub. Top dollar is one third that.
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    Our Country is run by Lunatics.... Maybe one day the Complacent will rise up and actually.... well, i doubt that will ever happen. :mad:

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  7. Maximilian II

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    Sorry, the only Hispanic immigrants I know personally are from Salvador (we say "el" Salvador) and they pay taxes, usually more than I do.
    Of course, I'd only hang out with law abiding citizens...or immigrants.

    Here's what cheezes me off: Australia has supported the USA in every military campaign we've entered into for 100 years, but it's harder for my Aussie son in law to come here for any reason than if he were Mexican. Mexico doesn't support us militarily for CRAP.
    WTF? (Apologies for language.)
  8. swanshot

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    Same here in Aus. Smells a bit off to me.
  9. Maximilian II

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    (Sorry again, for thread hijack this time.)
    Yeah, my girl came back from Bendigo because she couldn't get adequate health care due to the fact she isn't a citizen of Australia. She just had my first grandson, so it isn't like she didn't need it. The only medical care she could get was the Aboriginal clinic. Luckily my son in law was able to get here in time to see his son born.
    I like Hispanics generally, they are typically just "good ol' country folk." But then if my stepdaughter had married one instead of an Aussie he wouldn't have to leave his son in a couple more weeks.
    He does plan to get a long term Visa. Reckon how many hoops he'll have to jump through?
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    A BUTT LOAD :mad:
  11. swanshot

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    #$%^&n autocrats. they don't do it for the good of the country:mad::mad:
    They do it because they are frozen rigid by the thought that a decision they made might go wrong. And because because they can:mad::mad:
  12. tireman7.62x54r

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    These illegals are getting very expensive.
  13. Haligan

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    Just remember guys/girls; It's always darkest before it turns completely black.
    I'm afraid things are gonna have to get a whole lot worse before they can get any better.
    Half of America is still asleep.
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    Ron, you're ticking me off, cuz the truth hurts...:mad:

    In Nor Cal, the illegals can & will work for $15/hr. No less than $12. Most of them are skilled in construction in SoCal where they made a lot less. It still ticks me off, the Feds have their thumb up their behinds on the Immigration Problem.

    In the last 1.5 yrs, Terri & I invested about $60K into a room addition & new back yard. Not one cent went to illegal immigrants!
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