KENYAN Birth Certificate surfaces

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Marlin T, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. Marlin T

    Marlin T Well-Known Member

    Jul 8, 2005
    New Mexico
    [FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+2]Is this really smoking gun of Obama's Kenyan birth?[/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]Attorney files motion for authentication of alleged 1960s certificate from Africa[/SIZE][/FONT]

    [SIZE=-1]Posted: August 02, 2009
    11:55 am Eastern

    [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]© 2009 WorldNetDaily [/SIZE]

    WASHINGTON – California attorney Orly Taitz, who has filed a number of lawsuits demanding proof of Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as president, has released a copy of what purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth and has filed a new motion in U.S. District Court for its authentication.
    This document purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth for Barack Obama, allegedly born in Mombasa, Kenya, in 1961
    The document lists Obama's parents as Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Obama, formerly Stanley Ann Dunham, the birth date as Aug. 4, 1961, and the hospital of birth as Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
    Document enlarged to show detail alleges Barack Obama was born at Coast General Hospital in Mombasa on Aug. 4, 1961
    No doctor is listed. But the alleged certificate bears the signature of the deputy registrar of Coast Province, Joshua Simon Oduya. It was allegedly issued as a certified copy of the original in February 1964.
    WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.
    An enlarged view of the bottom of the document

    Last week, a counterfeit document purporting to be Obama's Kenyan birth certificate made the rounds of the Internet, but was quickly determined to be fraudulent. The new document released by Taitz bears none of the obvious traits of a hoax.
    One of the issues Taitz must deal with will be the authentication of the document. Critics immediately jumped on the Feb. 17, 1964, date for the document, explaining that the "republic" of Kenya wasn't assembled until in December of that year.
    Media Matters wrote, "Sorry, WorldNetDaily: Kenya wasn't a republic until Dec. 1964."
    But Kenya's official independence was in 1963, and any number of labels could have been applied to government documents during that time period.
    At Ameriborn Constitution News, the researcher noted that the independence process for the nation actually started taking as early as 1957, when there were the first direct elections for Africans to the Legislative Council.
    "Kenya became an Independent Republic, December 12, 1963, which gives more [credibility] that this is a true document," the website stated.
    The 1963 independence is corroborated by several other information sources, including the online African History.
    Even the People Daily news agency cited, on Dec. 12, 2005, the "42nd independence anniversary" in Nairobi. "The country gained independence from Britain on Dec. 12, 1963," the report said.
    An online copy of the Kenya Constitution, "adopted in 1963, amended in 1999," states: "CHAPTER I - THE REPUBLIC OF KENYA, Article 1, Kenya is a sovereign Republic. Article 1A, The Republic of Kenya shall be a multiparty democratic state…"
    It was in November 1964 when the region voluntarily became a one-party state, according to an online source.
    The region including Mombasa originally was dealt with as a separate independence movement, but it almost immediately became part of Kenya when the sultan of Zanzibar ceded the "coastal strip" to Kenya, according to sources.
    Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn't want his name known because "he's afraid for his life."
    Taitz's motion, filed yesterday in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, requests the purported evidence of Obama's birth – both the alleged birth certificate and foreign records not yet obtained – be preserved from destruction, asks for permission to legally request documents from Kenya and seeks a subpoena for deposition from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
    "I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds," Taitz told WND. "I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate].
    "I'm forcing the issue, where Obama will have to respond," she said.
    "Before, they said, 'You don't have anything backing your claims,'" Taitz explained. "Now I have something. In fact, I have posted on the Internet more than Obama has. My birth certificate actually has signatures."

  2. Suicide*Ride

    Suicide*Ride New Member

    Apr 6, 2009
    Golden, Colorado
    OK, now what?!! Is this gunna be the magic document that removes JOTUS from office? I guess it's time to bust out the EBR. :mad:

    Even if the doc. is genuine, we all know what obozo's gunna say....

    SR :mad:

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  3. ponycar17

    ponycar17 Active Member

    Feb 17, 2005
    South Carolina
    This topic originally surfaced here... It's OK to rehash in my book because I don't think enough people saw it. :D

    This is my take on the situation from that thread...

    Did anyone else pick up on the fact that Hillary Clinton arrived in Nairobi, Kenya on Monday of this week as part of her 'African Tour'?...

    Continued at

    Come on guys. I'm slow. I figured someone would have beat me to this already. :D I heard about it on Monday when the media said that Bill Clinton was in N. Korea, while Hillary was in Kenya. I guess there goes all hope that a birth certificate might be discovered even if real. :rolleyes:

    It's reminiscent of how Mr. Barry went to HI before the election to be at the side of his dear old typical white lady grandmother, and a HI official came out a few days later to proclaim that she had seen the original long form birth certificate and it looks the same as her own, right?... The Governor of HI then sealed the original birth certificate. :confused::rolleyes:

    I'll even add the little picture I made with Gimp last night to this thread. :D:D:D:D:D

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    Last edited: Aug 11, 2009
  4. Suicide*Ride

    Suicide*Ride New Member

    Apr 6, 2009
    Golden, Colorado
    :D:D:D:D:D Pony, why do you sound like the cat that ate the canary? :D:D:D:D:D

    I don't know 'bout y'all but I'm thinking somebody's trying to sabotage JOTUS.
    (joke of the United States :rolleyes:)

    SR :D
  5. Will it really make a difference(I don't really think so) what we got is what we will have.
  6. ponycar17, you use Gimp, huh? You wouldn't happen to be running Linux would you?
  7. ponycar17

    ponycar17 Active Member

    Feb 17, 2005
    South Carolina
    No, I used Linux and Unix a bit in college but I gave up on it back then. I run Vista with all the bells and whistles turned off. I have thought about running a multiple boot system with Linux as a secondary OS but haven't had the desire to mess with it yet. :)
  8. I used to run a dual-boot Linux/Win XP system, but I finally gave up on Winblows:D:D
  9. Bobitis

    Bobitis Guest

    So Obomba gets recalled.
    Then what?
    Biden? Pelosi as next in line?

    The way I see it, Obomba is just a front man (and a poor one at that).
    Our true enemy is congress.

    We can make changes next year to tackle this.
    Then more changes in 2012.

    We got thru Carter. We can weather this as well.

    And if someone doesn't turn OFF that car alarm, I'm gonna put a .308 in the block!:mad:

  10. Mr. Nameless

    Mr. Nameless New Member

    Feb 21, 2009
    Coast of N.C.
    Hmm, I wonder if he rest of the democratic party knew about this....
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