Koch Industries & other CEO's: Warning

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  1. 45Auto

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    More like stating the facts.
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  3. 45Auto

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    It's unlawful for a Govt. agency to tell Govt. employees how to vote. But it's perfectly legal for Corporations. Welcome to the machine.
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    I don't understand the "welcome to the machine" part there.

    It's legal for the owner of a corporation to address political views because the owner is using his money to do it. If he wastes $50,000 in paper, toner, and staff time to get his newsletter put together and distributed, it's his money he wasted. And he ought to be able to spend his own money as he chooses.

    If a government agency used $50,000 to do the same thing, it's our money they wasted. And they definitely don't deserve to spend my money to achieve political goals that are against my own.
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    Well said.
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    If I owned a corporation, and research showed obama being reelected was going to hurt my business, I would warn my employees of the consequences, then let them decide how they wanted to vote.
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    Very well said Josh. I agree.
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    Sorry, gotta throw the B.S. flag on this one.
    If my boss tried to tell me how to vote, I'd have his fanny in the ringer with a few phone calls.
    I left a Union because of this, the bastards. They knew in no uncertain terms to NOT mess with me after the threats that were made. It was VERY unfriendly, to put it mildly.
    And if some employee is too afraid of his /her boss and allows themselves to be bullied in such a way, they get no sympathy from me, we're supposed to be Americans, we stand on our on two feet.
    I cannot concern myself with the sheeple.
    What I see is a company saying, 'If this economy continues in this manner, we won't have jobs because we can't afford to do business here.'
    Well, who here isn't aware of THAT problem?
    And when did it get so bad, as in 'on who's watch?'
    We all know the unemployment rate is actually much higher than put out, so what's wrong with these guys warning their people about the hazards of Obama as they see it?
    Nothing, in my book. That's the American way, to watch out for one's best interest.
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  9. 76Highboy

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    That is what I am getting from the news letter. I am not reading it as saying If you vote for Obamma you will be fired". I am reading if Obamma gets back in were all fired". That is how I am reading it. Maybe I am wrong. It seems to me they are making certain to put the info out that needs to be put out.
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    I don't have a problem with a company stating its political ideas. If it is a corporation the owners are the shareholders. Not the CEO or President. They may be partial owners but not full control.

    If you own stock in this corporation they are spending your money. I can see this being a problem down the road. I don't want some company I hold shares in spending my money unless I approve.
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    My boss did the same thing only different. He told us that he would not partake in Obama care and would pay the fine as long as he could. When that option ran out he would close up shop.

    Is that a threat? Hell no. It is a fact, pure and simple. He will not continue to run his business if Obama is elected for another 4, cannot afford it.. I could not agree more with him.
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    10-4 Steve. I agree.
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    Koch Industries is privately owned. The two brothers are the sole shareholders.
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    If that is the case they can spend their money as they see fit. It's their money to spend.
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    That is true, they own it and they can do as they please. I think the Koch brothers long for the good old days of the company store in the company town and no regulation for miles around. I can picture them listening wistfully to "Sixteen Tons" sung by Tennessee Ernie Ford.
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