Legalization of marijuana

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by robman2629, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. al45lc

    al45lc Active Member

    Mar 8, 2010
    colorful colorado
    Possibly, however many fiscal conservatives such as myself have come to the conclusion that this is the best way.
    Many I know said so. And most of us voted a straight Republican ticket.
  2. targetacqmgt

    targetacqmgt New Member

    Sep 21, 2012
    What he said:cool:

  3. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    reports here of 2 US states giving recreational pot the OK and another 3 within a few weeks

    Washington and Colorado voters approved legalisation of marijuana for recreational use, making them the first U.S. states to decriminalise the practice.
    Washington will allow those at least 21 years old to buy as much as one ounce (28 grams) of marijuana from a licensed retailer. Colorado's measure allows possession of an ounce, and permits growing as many as six plants in private, secure areas. Oregon voters rejected a similar measure.

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  4. Maine04657

    Maine04657 New Member

    Sep 13, 2012
    So in LA now you no longer have to fill out a 4472 to buy a firearm? You no longer need to get a tax stamp for what are no longer NFA items to you? You no longer need a CCW to carry?

    There is a huge difference between SAYING your protecting as right and passing a law that somehow lets your state IGNORE federal law.

    Here in Maine we like other states have a state Constitution. In ours you look to Article 1 section 16 it says " The people have the right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned"! The problem is Federal law trumps state law thus we have to fill out 4473's to buy a firearm. We have to abide by NFA laws. We have to get a CCW to carry. Even though our state Constitution specifically says it can not be so...
  5. cycloneman

    cycloneman Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    Just passed. I know what jindal is up to. He has refused fed money for hurricand issac and has refused to implament obamacare and to accept money for it. He was in favor of the admendment to our constitution over gun rights. I see this as keeping us out of the fed grip. I think there is more than just me thinking about what could be later down the line.
  6. jim brady

    jim brady Well-Known Member

    Sep 22, 2009
    Simla, Colorado
    Federal laws trumps State law. Period. Passing this might make those who use it feel empowered, but it really makes no difference. Of course, with Eric Holder running the DOJ, the feds might not enforce it - UNLESS they can get revenue from fines. Might just help pay for Obama Care.

    The 'Loonies" here in Colorado? We had the same thing in California in the 1960's - folks moving there from the East Coast who re-created California to their likeing. I live here in rural Colorado (where people are really people), and only go into Yuppieville (Denver/Boulder/Fort Collins) as absolutely necessary.

    Sort of like the folks who move to the U.S. to escape from cesspool countries and bring their culture and problems with them. Makes sense to me........ Socialist Professors and Teachers steer their little robots to vote for Socialism - maybe the law should be changed so that out-of-state students must return to their home states to vote?
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2012
  7. robman2629

    robman2629 Active Member

    Sep 8, 2012
    I would be for legalizing it if it were absolutely controllable. But you cant control it. Just like alcohol though, there are people still making moonshine. The biggest thing is what about people serving time for possesion or sale of marijuana? Do we just let them out? Or do we say because they got arrested before the las passed they have to stay? California tried to do this years ago and it got shot down because federal law is higher than state so even if it does pass, its pointless. Im actually surprised that we havent had a proposition yet here in Maine. The biggest fight up here was to get gay marriage legalized. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
  8. Renee

    Renee New Member

    Sep 23, 2008
    Colorado Governor is waiting for a call from Erick Holder tomorrow, 10-08-12, to see how the Feds. are going to handle this.
    The state of Colorado wants to use the tax revenue for schools. That is a fact.
    It's a wait & see. We already have pot shots for Medical purposes.
  9. jim brady

    jim brady Well-Known Member

    Sep 22, 2009
    Simla, Colorado
    'They wanna use the tax revenues from pot sales for schools'? NO WAY!!!! I live in Colorado, too. They said the same thing about the State Lottery funds going for State Park funding. You betcha they used it like that. In a pigs eye they did. The 'Temporary Tax' to fund that C-470 Highway, remember how it was going to be paid for in ten years and then the tax removed. Never happened. The list goes on and on.

    IF the State gets away with letting people grow and sell pot - and I seriously doubt that the Feds will let them after Eric Holder is gone - any revenue from pot is going straight into the State piggybank/slop trough and spent on whatever the hogs in the State Capital want to spend it on. Who's going to stop them? They won't listen to me, and I don't think they will listen to you.

    Medical Purpose Marijuana. Lots of really sick young folks out there. Must be some bug going around school campuses and dorm parties. For $400 it's easy to find an MD to write you a perscription for the same bug. Sounds like you got sold a bill of goods.
  10. CCHolderinMaine

    CCHolderinMaine Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2012
    Steep Falls, Maine
    It does and here's the bigger rub; The feds get to pick and choose what laws they uphold and which ones they wink at. Pass a medical Marijuana law? Keep it under control and it's a "state's rights" issue. Maine decides to uphold our constitution and completely legalize all firearms? The feds would send in so many people the state would tip over.
  11. CampingJosh

    CampingJosh Well-Known Member

    Sep 25, 2007
    Perhaps part of the point is to actively challenge the federal law from a Tenth Amendment perspective.
  12. Maybe.
  13. Dog Soldier

    Dog Soldier Well-Known Member

    Nov 7, 2012
    The Great Desert
    Colorado used to be a conservitive western state. It is now the intermountain California. They have a thriving dope trade and animal rights is bigger than hunting. The next thing will be same sex marriage. The Homoselfish movement is big in Colorado.:(
  14. Maine04657

    Maine04657 New Member

    Sep 13, 2012
    As they have already done the guy in Montana who makes the 80 percent lowers. He wants to make 100 percent lowers and sell them without a FFL..
  15. Ledslnger

    Ledslnger New Member

    Dec 12, 2011
    My theory is the U.S. govt. doesn't want weed legal because THEY are the weed dealers right now. They sell to insurance companies for the cancer etc. patients and they sell to the pharmaceutical companies doing drug research. They have the market cornered. And, we know the government and insurance companies are both crooked so there is some serious $$$ being made by someone when those 2 organizations work together.
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