Lets see those .303's

Discussion in 'Curio & Relics Forum' started by PA_RIFLEMAN303, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. Buffalochip

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    I don't know Jack... I think the middle bottom looks like a .308 carbine, not a 303.
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    only if it was a lithgow conversion , no ishapores here ( there are some lithgow convertions to 7.62 but not many and are collectors within themselves )
  3. Buffalochip

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    The magazine looks rectangular, rather than angled.
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    thats the semi auto ( thought you where on the one above it )

    we designed a semi auto based on the LE i'll get mine outta the safe and show you some pics

    ( PS its NOT a charlton its a Lithgow )
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    mine is similar to the lower one but takes the almost square mag ( similar to the FN mag )
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    there where 17 variants of these over the period , i have a 1945 variant based called the howell , sadly lithgow did not approve it but the UK home guard said they'd have some but that died too ..

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    this one was fitted for the bren mag
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    and another variant that the south africans liked

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    this one is called the reider
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    sigh.. I miss my no. 4
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    and there where some 20+ magazine designs , i have 3 here that match nothing , they where hand made by the artificer ( metal smith in army speak ) to test but never went beyond that
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    got another batch heading to marstar JLA i've two never seen the light of day outside there paper and cosmoline world ( 1949 make)
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    nice. whats a guy gotta do to wrestle one away?

    I had a Fazakerly no.4, clean, and accurate shooter she was too.
  12. jack404

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    these will all go to marstar in canada then they'll have a sale with the last lot i know buds bought some as did the mil rifle place in AZ
  13. 45Auto

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    I only know about the NZ conversion. They are extremely interesting. How many did Australia make? How reliable were they?
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    i think we had about 15 iterations , some worked well , some complete disasters with noel farthington losing a eye on a demonstration ( he was the chief designer there in the 50's )

    technology changed the ammo changed and folks started going the path of the FN or AK so they never went anywhere really

    a design path that became a dead end ..

    i have 3 of them but would not ever try to fire them , one already shows stress fractures in the chamber ( that is a doland a early convertion that failed)

    .303 was not a good designed round for a semi or auto rifle , the .308 rimless was a much better fit
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  15. 45Auto

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    Good to know, Jack, (not that I'm planning to make one any time soon.) The conversions sparked my interest many long years ago with a picture of one made in NZ in Small Arms of the World, by Smith & Smith. Seemed like a briliant and highly creative idea. Sad that it cost someone an eye, though.
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    the kiwi one was a good one , it was a chitty brit rework of a aussie design that blew

    but Noels still kicking he's in the retirement home with his new bride ( he was 81 she 79 at the wedding )

    he'd be 92 this year and still visits the museum regularly
  17. demo

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    Hello gents, my first post here. Here's a few more three o's for the thread.

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    Jack it's good to see the museum got their 37 lithgow.

    Here's mine.

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    heck nice rifles there Demo

    i've a collector in the US who offered $2500 for one .. and i think the gents legit ...

    he bought my maxim ...
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    Are we talking about the 1937 lithgow?

    Did you have one to sell him?
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