lets talk about shipping or sea containers

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  1. ozo

    ozo Well-Known Member

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    "or is that wrong too ?"--jack
    Sorry if I rubbed your fur the wrong direction.....seems like I did.
    Maybe I'm still confused. Root Cellars here are dug, not buried.
    It didn't make sense to me ..your response.
    Sure seems a lot of edginess around lately :(:(:(
    I need to work in the yard anyway.

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  2. dbcooper

    dbcooper Well-Known Member

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    if you are underground and the SHTF and the bad guys find your air vent shafts, you an be screwed bad


    Id rather face the music from behind good cover and with elevation on my side, (which I have)

    I just want good water/weather/rhodent proof storage for my supplies and emergency living area incase something happens to the RV



    this thing about prepping... you are never done and you never quite know exactly what will work best.. or at least that is my experiance
  3. Country101

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    If you are going to bury these things, you need a couple pieces if large I beam welded to the bottom to keep them from floating. We made some pit blinds one time and they all floated out in a couple days. They had to rebury them with about 2-3 sticks of I beam sticking out 5' on each side to keep them down.

    Adding some braces wouldnt be a bad idea either, from what Jack is saying. I believe he is right. While they are made to stack, thier strength is in the corners for vertical support. If you placed signifcant load on the sides or roofs, I can see them giving easily enough to collapse them since they are not built for that kind of pressure.

    Personnally, I wouldnt want it buried and I would make some modifications by welding my brackets or shelves in. Yes, you burn paint off, but you can repaint. We had to fix quite a few that had holes in the roof. We would put plate over the hole and weld it. Then I think we used some kind of tar to seal it off even more.

    Word of warning, if you get one and it has black stuff down the side, it's likely creosote. Grinding that off with a wire brush aint pleasant after about 20 minutes. My face burned for a while after I got it off of me. I didnt know what it was and it coated my face. Didnt burn me too bad, but my face was red for the rest of the day.
  4. Maine04657

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    Many of the old ones where thin walled non reinforced. Most of the ones used in the past 10 or so year have the extra ribbing on the side. If your going to bury one it has to be a reenforced one. Not all are created equal. One of the guys I worked with in MD has 4 of them buried in his back yard we did that about 15 years ago we did have them set in a well dug hole that left about 2 foot on each side and about 3 foot under the surface that was filled with concrete. He made a tunnel from his basement to the "shelter" made of block and covered with concrete and it has never leaked and is still level.
  5. jack404

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    ozo not saying its wrong but we where talking shipping containers

    if you have a root cellar thats au natural cool use a container with a high water table and its troubkle is all i saying water causes hassle with sealed stuff

    and now i quit before folks think i'm abusing them or something

    but theres a fact you should know the fact that wet soil at 10 feet can exert 900 ton per foot which is far beyond the tolerance of the 4mm sheet they make containers from tears it like its card board

    or have we all forgot that ??


    never mind i'm just a know nothing idiot .. and i think cross post revenge is taking place
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  6. Maine04657

    Maine04657 New Member

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    You do know the most popular cheap route to a shelter is to bury a school bus? I know several folks up here in Maine who have them buried at camp and around there home for everything from tater storage to a full on shelter. While I agree on your facts and stress I also do not know anybody putting them under a wetland where that would be a issue but I would not wanna be in that one.

    There is a very well known survivalist guy in Canada who has a few dozen school buses buried at his place for 30 some years not without any problems. His have no added support just stripped school buses buried in a field.
  7. RYANINMICHIGAN

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    Unlike the people on Dooms Day Preppers they are nto bullet proff because you shot them with .22 LR. a .308 will blow right through it.
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    i thought that was funny as well.

    however looking at it another way. after a while.. the only ammo left might be 22 since you can store 50x as much of it int he same space.. :)
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