Live in NY? time to move

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  1. Marlin T

    Marlin T Active Member

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    So tell me, what exactly is an illegal firearm?

    NYS ATTORNEY GENERAL CANDIDATE ANDREW CUOMO PLEDGES TO FIGHT TO PROTECT NEW YORKERS FROM GUN VIOLENCE
    FIVE WESTCHESTER LAW ENFORCEMENT GROUPS ENDORSE CUOMO AS “CHAMPION FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT”
    Praise Cuomo record working with law enforcement to keep nation’s neighborhoods safe
    New York, NY (October 6, 2006) – New York State Attorney General candidate Andrew Cuomo today pledged to fight to protect New [​IMG]Yorkers against the scourge of gun violence, and earned the endorsement of five law enforcement organizations in Westchester representing more than 4,000 officers in the county. The law enforcement groups praised Cuomo’s integrity and record of accomplishments working with law enforcement to protect public safety, and fighting to get illegal guns off our streets as reasons for their support of his candidacy to be New York’s top law enforcement official.
    At an event held at Westchester County Courthouse in White Plains, Cuomo earned the endorsement of the Rye City Police Benevolent Association, the Westchester Corrections Superior Officers, the Fraternal Order of Police Westchester-Putnam Chapter, the New York Supreme Court Officers Association, and the New York Hispanic Court Officers Association.
    “I am honored and humbled to earn the support of these hardworking men and women who are on the front lines protecting our citizens every single day. It is a difficult – and sometimes thankless – job, and it is critically important,” stated Andrew Cuomo, New York State Attorney General candidate. “A key case in point right now is the issue of gun violence that is endangering New Yorkers in cities and towns across the state. These illegal guns quite literally put our officers in the line of fire – and I’ll fight to protect them.”
    Stated John McKillip, NYS Supreme Court Officers: “I am proud to stand with Andrew Cuomo and the men and women who protect us as we fight to keep illegal guns off our streets. As President Clinton’s secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Andrew’s Officer Next Door and gun buyback programs were a crucial step forward in protecting New Yorkers. The buyback program alone removed more than 10,000 guns from the nation’s streets. He will also push for legislation requiring smart gun technology on Day 1 of his administration. With his record, integrity and commitment, there is no question that as Attorney General, Andrew will continue to be a tough advocate and leader in the fight to protect law enforcement and our families from these deadly weapons. And that is why the New York State Supreme Court Officers support him.”
    Stated Jim O'Neill, Westchester-Putnam-Dutchess Fraternal Order of Police: “No other candidate in this race has better credentials to protect New Yorkers than Andrew Cuomo. Law enforcement can count on Andrew to work closely with us and stand strong and fight for common-sense legislation that saves lives by preventing criminals from out-arming us on the street. For instance: As Attorney General, Andrew will push legislation requiring microstamping of guns to help law enforcement track down illegal guns and solve crimes. Andrew already stood up to the gun lobby and negotiated the historic Safe Guns Agreement on behalf of the Clinton Administration to make the way guns were designed and distributed safer. The Westchester-Putnam-Dutchess Fraternal Order of Police enthusiastically supports his candidacy for attorney general.”
    Stated Robert Buckley, President Westchester County Correction Superior Officers Association: “Andrew Cuomo understands the challenges New York’s law enforcement officers face each day protecting public safety, and keeping our neighborhoods safer, and how critical it is to prevent these lethal weapons from getting in the hands of the wrong people on our streets and in our neighborhoods The sheer firepower of these battlefield weapons poses an especially critical danger to public safety. Failing to strengthen the current Assault Weapons ban would be a major blow to law enforcement. The Westchester County Correction Superior Officers Association strongly supports Andrew Cuomo for Attorney General.”
  2. Red Neck64

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    Most vote the way the union dictates,unions vote Demoratic all the time I was in the Operating Engineers in NYNY.Block voting a union tradition,Cuomo is one underhanded backdoor snake.I ain't moving and not giving up the guns.
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  4. polishshooter

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    THANK GOD I don't live in New York any more!

    And I Thank him for that almost DAILY....


    Red, I'm telling you, you are missing out on some of the BEST years of your life, there IS a good life for you OUTSIDE of New York, and not only will you find common sense and less stress, it will be GUARANTEED a better place to raise your family...get out while you can. Only when the last Democrat realizes there are not enough people left to even turn out the lights, will they see what they did.
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    I wouldn't live their if you paid me too.
  6. stetson

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    8 years of one Clinton!How the voters of New York elected her amazes me
    and the rest of the liberal group.They make good copy that's all.They go
    against all traditional standards and think they are better than everybody
    else and above the laws they write.Yet, they still continue to garner votes go figure?
  7. danurve

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    clinton got elected because of the lax and low standard requirements in politics. That, and enough bandwagon idiots s*** her @**. cumo, despite his record and HUD fumble stands a good chance to do the same.
    A slightly less lime-lighted dimwit anti-gun zelot wears a republican suit and runs NYC.
    A farce for an excuse as a senator belches out his jazz everyday and continues to do so in Ma., yet you don't see people leaving in droves.
    A dribbling pile of feceis for Gov in La. continues to ozze yet why arn't people exiting that state either?
    How about Ca., NJ., Az.? My gosh why arn't we all packed up and ready with engines running? Dang, to heck with that good job, benifits, good report cards, .. Family here? who needs `em, they can slug it out on their own, why my aging mom is kickin right along, should have a few good years in here yet on her own without my dad God rest his soul.
    Forget all that, it's time to move - Not.
    I get a kick out of you guys that continualy bash NY. Yes siree we got some sheer idiots runing the state, but to just pack up and run? We survived one cumo and in the end he got ditched. I would hope there are enough wise to shenanigans, but any educated soul should know history repeats itself. So while you guys living in more gun friendly states are gloating just remember in 4 more years it can happen to you. No one state is immune, would you just pack up and run after a bad election and uproot? I'm 44 years old and my youngest is 15, soon to be our deer hunting with me once he's 16. It's not all downstate politics. This is my home, and I'm not giving up my rights or my guns either.
    For someone who has no ties or little to no commitments, thats one thing. Other things are much easier said then done. Some people like to get out of the cites, some do but forget to leave the city behind. If your job, the security you have or built encompases a move this is another thing. But just to drift and abandon your home just isn't an option. If you leave all what's left behind just how the frick long do you expect it to stay so far away that it won't catch up to you, huh? Tell me that. And before people go telling me their state is so much better, let's look at all the welfare addicts and border problems elsewhere. Yeah how about that. Does your state even have half the public wma NY offers? Can you go Bear, Whitetail, Turkey, Coyote etc. hunting within a few hours drive all for under 80$ without a guide in your state? Some of us made several mistakes in the past and to make a long story short, don't have stupid money to play with. It makes a difference. Alright this is getting nutzo.
    cumo, I don't know alot about him, but I know you cant polish a turd no matter how much is spent on a suit & tie. I get more disillusioned with politics as I get older, with the trust I have in elected officials getting quite dull.
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  8. Oneida Steve

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    Well said, denurve.
  9. Tac

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    If NYC was a seperate state from NYS, things in NYS would be
    much similar (with regards to RKBA) to the rest of the country.

    NYC's population controls the vote over the rest of the state.

    .............................Not a good thing at all!
  10. Marlin T

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    Oneida and Danurve,

    I USED to live in CT. and couldn't take all the liberals, and what the liberals stand for. It was beyond my tolerance levels. Simple solution, take my money, labor to another state. Easy

    So to answer your statements, it is all up to you and how you really feel about your rights being violated by a bunch of liberals.

    It sounds like neither of you are fed up enough with all of the BS laws, BS liberals. So therefore you are not going to move. But moving is easy. It is a verb and requires action. First off, you'll have to get fed up enough to see that you're a lobster in a pot of boiling water.

    A benifit of your moving to a more conservative state, like mine :rolleyes: would be another vote to get that commie Dominachie out of office. We need more conservatives here and the rest of the red states.

    But until you move, just consider yourself to be a target of the rest of the country due to the fact that your state is one of the most liberal that there is!

    By the way, can you tell I don't like liberals?
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  11. danurve

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    Well to put it plainly, your assumtion is not as accurate as you would like us to belive. It is not that easy or simple. There is more to it then liberals and laws. Like I said some things are easier said then done. Apparently your situation, not ours, made moving easier for you.
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    I see that Mayor Mike is in need of a basic history lesson.
    What a fool! :mad:

    Does "RINO" ring a bell?
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  13. polishshooter

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    Most impediments to a happy, successful life we create OURSELVES.

    Moving away from your "home" for whatever reason is NOT "easier" for others...it is as hard for anybody to move away from things with which we have a certain "comfort level."

    But Marlin is quite right...for whatever reasons, valid or not, you are convinced whatever keeping you there is more important than that of which you complain.


    Once you TRUTHFULLY examine your "needs," and once you understand you CAN go BACK to visit friends and Family whenever you desire, and objectively, not subjectively, realize your true "needs" will be BETTER met elsewhere, is the time you will "get it."


    And MOVE.


    And be HAPPIER.
  14. danurve

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    hooie
    Quotes from political anti's & selective words in Caps does not negate someone elses life, comitments, choices or goals.
    You guys seem comfortable & determined to justify your choices and expect the rest of us to tool right long. Doesn't work that way.
    What I said in my first responce to this thread still stands. Once certain cituations change I plan to move away from the city and yes better my life. I'm not going to simply give up, quit and abandon my home state. Get it?
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  15. Marlin

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    Just a gentle reminder, folks, not directed at anyone particularly.

    Let's keep our discussions on the friendly side and not let it slide into a shouting match......:)

    Remember, that is one of the big pluses for TFF. We can and do often disagree, but we do it in a fashion that ruffles no one's feathers. While at the same time, bearing in mind that we all HATE "Political Correctness" here !
  16. polishshooter

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    danurve, I didn't mean to touch a nerve...

    All I'm REALLY saying is of COURSE each person has to make his own decisions, for his OWN reasons, only just be sure you are making the right decisions for the right reasons, that's all. Human's naturally dislike change, even fear life altering decisions, and put roadblocks of their own making many times in the way of a tough decison, to convince themselves it's best to keep the staus quo.

    For example, if you have an elderly parent, or OTHER serious family committments, of COURSE that is a great reason to stay, heck, your sacrifice would be commendable...but on the OTHER hand, sometimes we CONVINCE ourselves that our parents or family "need us," when they really DON'T. But AGAIN only you can tell....

    Likewise I've seen people "married" to their land or home, ESPECIALLY if they've owned it for a long time or even generations....when if they SOLD it, they could buy at least TWICE the land and TWICE the house for that money, in another state, and make payments with just the TAXES they are saving on it! Trust me, I lived in New York for 21 years, and I KNOW what my parents were (and my Mom now is...) paying for taxes, its confiscatory! "Home" is wherever you make it, not NECESSARILY where it "aways was..." But AGAIN, only you can make that call...


    Other reasons given many times is "Job" or "Salary." There ARE jobs out here, sometimes much more available than THERE, (our economies are generally GROWING, when New York's is SHRINKING) and with our cost of living, you would absolutely have MORE disposable income even if you worked for LESS pay! SO that is NOT the roadblock many people say it is, but again, only YOU can decide, just get all the facts before you do!

    There are many OTHER reasons we decide "to stay," or "to move." All I and others are saying, is make sure you are making objective decisions.



    It HAS worked for us, and for MANY people who have made the switch, if we appear "animated" about it, it is because we only want to SHARE the "Freedom" we have found, that is TRULY beyond our expectations, with others who are "behind the lines" in the "occupied" territories.:cool:

    And as for my caps, I am PASSIONATE when I speak, or type. Sorry if you don't like either WHAT I say or HOW I say it.


    And YEAH, I get it. Someday you will too. My "Home" state at ONE TIME was New York. I went to school and college there. I STILL love it, and LOVE to visit, it had GREAT hunting and trout fishing and Walleye and Perch fishing on Lake Erie, and Musky fishing on the Niagara, am STILL a rabid Bills and Sabres fan, STILL don't like Orange (because they beat my alma mater EVERY YEAR.:p ) and HATE the fact such a great state is under the thumb of Schumer and Clinton.

    But my NEW "Home" state, which I have grown to love MORE, is Indiana. And it's still SANE here. Come and visit someday!
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  17. Marlin T

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    Ya PS, be NICE!!!!! Whats that all about. LOL (just joking, I got it)

    Dan,

    I post the above story as new news, not anything to do with you, personally.

    I was not refering to you as the fool, if you caught that.

    As far as moving, it took me a year to get all my ducks in a row before it was time to go. But there was that defining moment when I knew it was time to go, I left most of that BS behind me in CT and I'm happier now than I ever have been.

    So when the dinger goes off in your head, you'll know it's time go. But until that time occurs, if it ever occurs, have a good time where your at. Just make sure to TRY and vote out all that liberal sh** that makes the rest of the US mad at New Yorkers.

    By the way, it is amazing how just a very small part of the state can and does control the rest. I'm not sure about NY, but look at the blue red map of CA and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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    Well said Polishshooter. I have lived here all of my life and am not looking to get away right now but am entertaining possibilities in the future. I have many friends and family here and we also just bought our first house 5 years ago. I definitely would like to enjoy it for a few years. It took me a long time to get where I am and I don't feel like starting over again.I may have moved away years ago but the wife and kids would most likely be unhappy to relocate. These are just a few of the reasons I stay here and it is my choice. If you are young and single it would be the easiest thing to do. When I get a little older I will give it more thought. Unfortunately the politicians suck as well as taxes but I will continue to deal with it. Of course, if they ever try to take my guns away it won't matter because I WILL fight for my RKBA.
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    polishshooter I'm thrilled to see you & a few others so passionate for leaving NY, but it leaves open territory.
    Lived in NY for 44 years myself, owned a house, helped manage rentals all that. Alot of noise in that business if you ask me. Ok -4 years on a destroyer but I returned home. The amount of time either of us lived somewhere may help validat an opinion but in my eyes it doesn't solidify a reason that just because of an election, a bad election to quit and leave kids, family & friends behind. It depends on comittments & what you belive in or are willing to fight for. I can move anytime as far as that goes. Not afraid to put a shovel in my hands either, but the point is I don't want to do either. My gut tells me not to quit and give up & abandon hope that easy. Perhaps a stubborn triat but thats my conscious.

    T thanks for the news, but cumo's pr team plastered upstate with vomitorious adds well before your post. The man is a pig. He actually campained that he fought the NRA. If all the pro gun rights people were to leave NY state it would give those pigs exactly what they want, more power. Yet even through a dim light even Shumer himself came out and said how important the hunters and sportsmen are to NY and the economy. Yes I do vote btw.

    Seems like some people are just waiting for NY to burn or something. Well I think that's a bad attitude. NY's new AG is a serious butthole, no doubt about it. Now we got him, spitziod, shumer & clintoon. Good lord it's a liberal cesspool. Alot can happen in 2 - 4 years. (Live in NY? time to move) - Sorry but I think thats wrong, cumo is not a final straw. I am sticking to my first post to this thread.
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