Long gun info needed for newbies w/the bug!

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by ancientoaks, Aug 29, 2007.

  1. ancientoaks

    ancientoaks New Member

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    we now have the bug...but are SOOO uniformed..have always had a few interesting guns inherited (and learned alot about in the last few weeks) and now would appreciate help with one particular gun we have come across and love to have...
    a 'Kentucky type' long gun (we do not know the difference between a flintlock and a percussion, SORRY!)...barrel measured from the firing pin mech (sorry again for lack of correct terms) is 42 1/2" long. Octogon full stock style...
    overall length is 61 /12" ......wood on the stock (where you rest it against your shoulder) is a lovely well striped tiger maple, very dark and untouched..and continues on under the barrel about half way then there is another kind of wood (looks like walnut) that is attached with a kind of dovetail joint and from then on it is a bit narrower as it travels all the way down the barrel..there is a ramrod with a tip of some sort and someone has taped it to the barrel so it won't get lost....no cracks or repairs noticed..with the exception at the mechanism site, something is gone on top leaving the wood exposed and weak just above and to the side of the hammer....no ornamentation AT ALL on this gun..very elegant in design, the butt has a lovely curve to it that fits my shoulder well.and the angle of it from the barrel is 'just right' to my eye....and there is a raised carved cheek rest but plain, no design to it.....and the stock has just a brass buttplate...no patch box....the firing mech is a dark metal no engraving, no signature, no number...the hammer looks like a tiny bit is broken off the end and does not hold a cock..the trigger guard is lovely, curved, long and elegant...there are two triggers, the near one is tightly curved and just fits MY finger, my husband would have trouble putting his into it..the far side one is straight down...the bore is quite small and we could not see well down it (didn't have a light)..the gun is SOOOOO heavy I cannot imagine lugging it about today...but when raised the two sights seem to still agree..there is a rear sight, still in good shape, and a small front sight that seems quite worn...no rust, very little pitting on the metal, is a lovely smooth purply brownish color....it feels good in your hands...
    can someone tell us what this is? percussion? age flintlock? value? should it have a mark somewhere? what about what I read that the 'lock' had a mark on it..what is the 'lock'?
    we can buy for $400 and thought to just display it in our new/antique house...thanks!
    also, would attending a gun show help us learn more???
  2. inplanotx

    inplanotx New Member

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    Hi ancientoaks and welcome to TFF.

    To answer some of your questions, go here

    http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=38798

    and go down until you see an index card saying "Blunderbuss". This is a picture of a flintlock mechanism. The big screw and pichers on the hammer hold a piece of flint wrapped in leather and held in the pinchers with the big screw on top. The curved underside is the "flash pan" and contains a very fine grained black powder. The other upright piece of steel is called the "frizzen" which the hammer hits on the way down with the flint hitting the steel frizzen which sparks and sets off the flash powder in the pan igniting the final charge in the barrel.

    If your piece has a big hammer and under the front of the hammer is a nipple with a hole in it, then it is a percussion fired lock. A percussion cap is fitted over the nipple and the hammer hits the cap setting off the final charge in the barrel.

    Hope this helps a little.

    IPT
  3. ancientoaks

    ancientoaks New Member

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    thank you so very much, husband and I studied the photo, understand exactly what you have pointed out and it helps alot..the gun we are looking at is a percussion weapon.....hope we can find out more!
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    inplanotx New Member

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    In order to find out more, wwe are going to need pictures of the weapon. Please post them here so we can see the rifle and go from there. Look on the lock and let us know any and all markings there. Also the top of the barrel. There were may rifle makers back in those days and they marked their work in different ways.

    Xracer would probably be able to help, however without pictures there really is no way to tell.

    IPT
  5. ancientoaks

    ancientoaks New Member

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    will try and get photos today....someone else has just told me that the two piece stock is a dead giveaway as to this gun being a 'kit' reproduction...so a photo is a must of course to continue our education...the patina on this gun is amazingly 'old' and 'worn' so if it IS a kit, it appears to have been put together using old gun parts....as a antique furniture collector I cannot imagine imparting this patina on new materials, even those 40-50 years old...but it may be possible with guns....
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