Lookin at Kahr 9mm

Discussion in 'Centerfire Pistols & Revolvers' started by mikld, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. mikld

    mikld Active Member

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    I seem to be looking at 9mm a lot lately (I have a Norinco Tokerev clone in 9mm that has kept me "9mm satisfied" for several years and I have my 45 ACP pistols for semi-auto shooting). But I have been reloading for my Tokerev a lot lately and am looking for another gun in 9mm. I like the looks of the Kahr CW9. Not sub-compact, but smaller than my 45s. Anyone have any experience/feedback on the Kahr CW9?
  2. RunningOnMT

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    I just got rid of a Kahr CW45. It was an OK shooter but I just didn't care for it. Kahr in my opinion is overpriced for what you get and they have a reputation for less than stellar customer service.

    I did get one not long ago that I love, a Bersa Thunder Pro 9mm UC. A very solid piece, accurate, compact, and 13 rd cap.
  3. Hammerslagger

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    Before you open your wallet for any Kahr Arms product; read the Kahr customer service threads here and look at the pic in this link:

    http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=32746&highlight=Kahr cracked slide

    They fixed the gun of the guy in the above link for free and threw in a set of night sights for his trouble. Then their customer service and stand behind your products did an "about face". Shortly afterward they wanted to charge me about $200 to fix the exact same defect!

    Today, I would only buy a Kahr under two conditions. First, it would have to be a used gun that I could test fire for function and accuracy. Second, it would have to be so cheap in price, that I could likely sell it to a gunshop at a profit the next day.
  4. Helix_FR

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    There are way better guns than the CW series for the price. A while back Kahr used to stand behind their product and support it very well. Now its a pay for everything type of deal. The CW series is about the worst of all and Kahr has taken the "too bad so sad" approach with fixing any problems. I'm starting to put the CW series in the 500 round gun class meaning anything over 500 rounds w/o it breaking consider yourself lucky. I think so far this year I've gotten 2 broken slide stops, 2 broken trigger bars, a mag release that won't hold a mag (bc the spring for the mag release sits in a hole like the glocks and the hole enlarged from use reducing the spring tension) and 3 or 4 were the last round hold open does not work bc the slide stop likes to back out while shooting. This is contributed to the slide stop spring that is held in place by a small screw that like to loosen bc its screwed into plastic. So do as you will but I think you'll be happy finding something else.
  5. hardluk1

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    An I am one thats been happy with the 2 kahrs I own. I have run 600 rounds thru each befor CC'n ether.I will do that with ever pistol I buy. The first one I bought was a used "problem" cw9 for the buyer. Been great for me. Round count is not real high as once they prove there relyable i only shoot 50 to a 100 rounds a month thru them. But my used cw9 has atleast 1250 rounds fired. The cm9 has around 850 now. Not a single issue with ether. Most of the real issues were with early pistols like most companies deal with . You also have to remember most people on these forums in general are only a very small percetage of owners of firearms. And then the people that that seem to have so many problems can be the loudest on the forums. Most of us can buy most any "problem firearm" and shoot them for years and never see anything wrong. ALL companies build some turds today as production is maxed out for most. But when s&w custom shop guns have the problems they do believe they all can.
  6. terminator

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    Don't buy a kahr the gun I have is fair at best and their customer service is awful !!!!
  7. JUNKKING

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    My wife had a kahr cw45 and liked it, I myself hated the gun. Its now gone on to a new owner friend of mine that bought it from us and he loves it. Lots and lots of rounds through it and not a single problem. The reason for getting rid of it was my wife has very weak hands and had problems racking the slide. She is into a Sig P238 and loves that too. Its a nice little 380 and she can function the gun without any problems.
  8. terminator

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    Why did you hate it?
  9. 3/2 STA SS

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    I prefer an all metal pistol
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    I do too, 3/2 STA SS. I have a steel framed Kahr 9mm (the short-run E9 model) and it has been a good gun - reliable and pleasant to shoot. It is actually somewhat more accurate than I would expect from a gun with a Glock type trigger, at least when I am the one pulling the trigger. I can't speak about customer service, because I've never had any trouble with it (also, I bought it used).

    Just my $.02.
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    Do not let the beginning Out of The Box fool you
    They become slicker with shooting
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  12. terminator

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    I hope your right, I do like the gun but the accuracy is worse then any gun I have ever shot and I have been shooting a long time.
  13. Pukindog12

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    I purchased a Kel Tec PF9 to be my summer carry. To me it was a good gun. I went to find a 2nd one. Instead I purchased a Kahr CW9. I am glad I gave it a chance. I liked it so well I purchased another CW9 which came with 3 mags total (one is a 8 rounder). Now I have two CW9s and five mags between the two. These guns are simply great for me. I shoot them very accurately. Very mild recoil. I can get a full grip on the gun. It has a 3.6 inch barrel. No safety. A long but very smooth trigger pull. A little heavier than the PF9 but virtually the same size. Very reliable as I have had zero malfunctions from the two as of yet. I am totally happy and pleased with my CW9s.
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    I'm 700+ rounds into my CW45. I had one FTF with steel cased stuff during the first 150 rounds. Flawless since. It is my carry gun which means I am willing to rely on it for my life and the lives of my loved ones.

    I've never dealt with customer service. The pistol works so've never had a reason to contact them. I can't speak one way or another on it.

    Claims regarding accuracy are irrelavant. 90% of all pistols will shoot better than the guy who bought it. If people aren't used to the trigger pull or don't find the grip comfortable they won't shoot well.

    The "DA" pull on the trigger is smooth but has a sharp break at the end. Make sure you dry-fire practice to get used to it. I had to since I am used to 1911 triggers. My groupings have gone from 4in to 2in at 7 yards and they are getting better. Practice. Practice. Practice.
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    You would think, with all the moolah they throw around

    on advertising, that Kahr's CS would be good...
  16. aa1911

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    I shot my buddy's Kahr 9mm years ago and had no desire to ever do so again! Recoil was horrible and when I found out they made the same thing in .40 I for certain stayed away from them. I shoot full power .357 loads out of my snubbies with no problem and the Kahr rung my bell!

    that's my .02
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    aa1911 Man you must have been a real weeny years ago . hehehaha I own both and rate even the cm9 as a nothing note worthy in recoil with a +p loads . My full power 357 is 158gr at 1600fps and 180gr at 1400fps. That will darn sure get your attention in a 8" dw much less a snubby. My 102lb daughter will shot my 2 kahrs not my dw with my loads. Not like that production junk from rem, win, fed or hordady that for sure.


    thereewolf Before I bought a new kahr I talked to a cs guy and what he said suprised me. Now not so much now. Guys will call in whinning about this or that. Then when the pistol comes in there no letter stating whats wrong with it. Just a gun in a box even haveing to get the address off the box most times to return it. With no letter explaning the issue the owner had for the smithy to read telling of any issuesso they take it down look it over ,clean, lubeand go fire a few rounds . Shrug there shoulders and send it back running fine. To many stupid owners out there in general some times.

    I had a question with my cm9 after a few months of ownership. Nothing not working well , just a question about if they do any handfitting on the bolt. Not being sure of the area of concern they asked for photos, Sent some in, they called me to say they wanted to see my pistol. Sent a shipping label, pistol gone that afternoon and back in 6 days with a new barrel as they were not sure about some "wearing of the nickel finish in the lug area". Gun runs as well as before. I got a call in a few days saying that said the old barrel was fine after all.

    How much better can CS be.
  18. zkovach

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    Looked at them but hated their triggers, went with the shield instead. It's awesome btw.
  19. aa1911

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    hahaha, no doubt. Never thought I'd say a 9mm had 'bite' to it! I know I'm exaggerating a bit but relatively it was pretty damn juicy for a little 9mm.

    Now the .500 s&w, that for sure rings my bell! as do .45-70 revolvers...
  20. terminator

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    Then when the pistol comes in there no letter stating whats wrong with it. Just a gun in a box even haveing to get the address off the box most times to return it. With no letter explaning the issue the owner had for the smithy to read telling of any issuesso they take it down look it over ,clean, lubeand go fire a few rounds . Shrug there shoulders and send it back running fine. To many stupid owners out there in general some times.

    That is bull crap! You can not send the gun in without an RMA number assign to the gun. The address, problem, s/n and all other information is known upfront. My experience with thier SC sucked!
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