Looking to buy a 45 handgun

Discussion in 'Centerfire Pistols & Revolvers' started by scubadiver12165, Aug 9, 2012.

  1. CCHolderinMaine

    CCHolderinMaine Active Member

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    There are a ton of good choices. Best advice is try as many as you possibly can.
    One thing that is absolutely positively clear:

    A Sig and a Glock are NOT basically the same thing.
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    After looking at and holding (fondling) a bunch of 45 ACP's, I ordered a FNP-45 from Bud's for $641, including insurance. All the reviews I read were glowing. They are US made, 14-15 round capacity, come with three mags, holster, mag carrier, two backstraps, and night sights.
    It is supposed to arrive at my dealer tomorrow. I'll post a range report after I lay hands on it.
  3. Double D

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    While I have never owned one myself, the reviews are good on this gun and the reputation is solid. I dont think you made a bad choice. We will be waiting for the range report...
  4. gun runner

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    I would go with a Colt 1911A1. Very high quality pistol and made like a steel vault.
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    Here it is, I shot three mag fulls the other day. It digested everything I shot. The only problem was that the last 4 shells were extremely hard to put in the mags,even denting the previous case, so I ordered a loader for it. I think I'm going to be happy with it. More range time this weekend, Isaac permitting.

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  6. PanhandlePop

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    I'm a huge 1911 fan and have a Glock 30 that is a fine little gun and surprisingly accurate. However, your question is one only you can answer. I agree with jj; study and analyze your options, handle as many different guns as you can, and, if possible, find some way to shoot those that you think will be best suited to your likes.
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    I am strongly considering a purchase of the FNP-45 as well. I would love to hear any future range reports on your experiences with it. Also considering upgrading my M&P 40C to a 45. Still undecided yet.

    I hope you have a great time with your new purchase. Don't forget to put a 1911 in your collection soon. I was one of the late comers to that party, but they are definitely the most fun to shoot.
  8. WHSmithIV

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    Since the Pandora's box has been opened and as an ex-Navy Petty Officer I'll go ahead and throw my 2 cents worth in.

    The 1911 is - in my opinion - the finest pistol ever created. As a concealed carry weapon, not the first weapon of choice. As a home defense weapon, perfect. As an open carry weapon perfect.

    The simple reality is that a .45 that is ACCURATE at 50 ft. is simply not a good conceal carry weapon because of it's size. There are small, short barrel 45 ACP pistols out there, but due to the size of the bullet when you fire it through a 2" barrel you are sacrificing accuracy for the size of the bullet.

    Accuracy is in direct proportion to 5 variables. The size of the projectile, the length of the barrel it is fired trough, the degree of rifling in the barrel to give the projectile spin, the pressure exerted on the projectile from the explosion of the combustible inside the cartridge and the distance required for the best possible accuracy. If all 5 variables are matched perfectly you get the most perfect accuracy for a given projectile size at a specific distance with a specific length barrel.

    So, my 5" barrel 1911 is definitely my preferred handgun of choice. My preferred concealed carry weapon is a .380 with a 3.5" barrel.
  9. Double D

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    Completely disagree. Go with a 1911 commander with a scandium frame and its the cats meow in a carry gun. I consider a 380 a backup.
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    If your wife is going to use it, I'd get her input as to what feels comfortable shooting--not just holding. If a gun makes her flinch or is too heavy, she won't learn to shoot it well.
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    I can't believe how people answer every question with a response that is totally unrelated to the question. The OP asked about Glocks vs. Sigs. Not any other brand or type or configuration or color or weight or concealed carry ability. It was a very specific question dealing with a home defense and practice weapon.

    The answer is that yes there are differences between Glocks and Sigs. Glocks are great carry guns but for target practice they are not so great at least not compared to a good Sig. Sig makes some of the most accurate firearms being sold and the P220 often ranks as the #1 choice among all handguns when people have polls on websites like this one.

    A Glock will be lighter. A Sig will be more accurate. A Glock can hold more rounds in a mag but you can always buy a handful of mags and make that Sig just as effective or close to it.

    There are great differences in how the two operate also. You won't see any single action Glocks (at least AFAIK) while there are lots of single action Sigs. They are generally single action / double action guns actually. For target shooting that makes a huge difference.

    In short if you want a gun just for self defense either the Glock or the Sig will do fine. If you want a very accurate target pistol get the Sig. Glock doesn't make target quality handguns AFAIK.

    Of course things like ergonomics matter a lot. If that Sig is too big for your hand or the Glock is too small you will want something else. You need a gun that won't hurt your hand when you shoot it because you MUST practice with any SD weapon if you expect it to be effective at protecting you.

    Personally I've looked at Glocks with the intention of buying one for concealed carry but I've always ended up with something else because Glocks just aren't made to fit my hands. I do own a Sig P220. For a home defense gun they are excellent as long as you know that walls don't stop bullets unless they're concrete walls or block walls or basement walls (exterior basement walls). I have my Sig right next to me in my desk drawer. But I have pistols all over the place so... I have other brands besides Sig.

    Still the answer to your question is yes there are differences and they do matter a lot actually. You should do a lot more research IMO before you make your choice or you can do what us gun junkies do - buy both. :) They are both fine guns. They are just different.
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  12. Double D

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    CJ, You need to go back and re-read the OPs question. The thread says looking to buy a 45 handgun. While the two guns are mentioned, he also says ANY advice is welcome. So, while you just cant believe the crazy answers, we will continue to make suggestions.
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    Come on Double D. He was talking strictly about Glocks vs. Sigs. His call for advice seemed to totally be about that question to me. But I tend to take people for what they actually say instead of what they mean to say. Maybe he does want advice on any gun on the planet. It just doesn't seem like that's what he asked to me. He mentioned Glocks and Sigs several times and asked about advice concerning those two companies. It seems very clear to me. It certainly won't hurt him to hear about other guns but he did ask specifically about Glocks and Sigs.

    I can't say as I agree with the thing about 1911's being the perfect home defense gun either. And, like you, I don't think they are out of the realm of good CCW guns. I carried my Sig P220 for years as a CCW gun and it's as big as many 1911's I've seen and a lot bigger than some.

    But they do suffer from a lack of capacity (before swapping mags) which other guns don't do. That's not a terrible fault but it is a fault and keeps them from being a "perfect" HD gun.

    Also I certainly don't agree that while the 1911 is accurate at 50 ft. I don't agree that other guns aren't accurate at that distance. Maybe he meant 50 yards because a 1911 (a good one) will shoot accurate at that distance and so will a Sig P220. The original Sig 210 was a 2" group handgun at 50 yards. The new 210's are said to be capable of 1" groups at 50 yards. Of course those are 9mm guns for the most part but some of the original 210's were .45's.

    At any rate I have a Taurus .45 that will shoot very accurately at 50 feet and it has a much shorter barrel than a true 1911. I have shot empty .45 casings at 20 yards (60 feet) and hit every one I shot at with that pistol. It's a PT-145 Mil. Pro. SA/DA. It is a VERY accurate pistols in fact for only having a 3.25" barrel.
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    Dang! Double post.
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    All I can say is while my exwife never went shooting with me. Decades ago I took out a few guns for another friend's wife to fire. She is a petite woman, and she was able to fire the 1911 far easier that the Browning Hi-Power. The 1911's single column magazine made it fit her hand much better.
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    Hickock45 would totally disagree with that assessment. The Glock is PLENTY accurate.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/hickok45?feature=results_main
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    As for Scuba's question....

    Shoot a Glock, see if you like it. It's a fine weapon, although it's not for everyone.

    Shoot the Sig, it's great too. See if it's for you.

    Shoot a 1911 (you should own at least ONE eventually - took me almost 20 years).

    See which one is for you. That's all you can do.

    For me, I'd carry/use for home (and do) the Glock all day long. Biggest reason? NO EXTERNAL SAFETY.
  18. Double D

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    Re read this post, ANY RECOMENDATIONS AND SUGGESTIONS ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED. I rest my case.
    Besides that, so what?
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    I would have to say if someone who seems to be new to handguns and his first purchase decision process is based off just 2 suggestions from 1 guy who likes Glock and 1 guy who likes Sig that anyone who would NOT offer other suggestions is doing the poster a huge disservice. If they are obviously unsure of their purchase and you know there are other comparable, or even better, options and you do not offer them the information so they can be more informed of what is available to them you are not helping to them at all. It seems to me had the first guy he talked to been a 1911 guy the question would have been "1911 or Sig?".
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