Luger 1916

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  1. sgtgret360

    sgtgret360 New Member

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    hi i have 3 old pistols im trying to get some info on. The first is a Luger 9mm that i believe to be 1916. All of the serial nubers are matching except the magazine which is worn and i cant make out the numbers.

    The second is a US Revolver CO .38. It has a 5 round chamber. I think it was made between 1900 and 1910.

    The 3rd is an L. Gasser Wieit 11mm Revolver. It has a 6 round chamber. From what ive read elsewhere is a model 1870. Has lots of markings including an apple with an arrow through it.

    If anyone can give me some info/history/value i would really appreciate it. Im not a gun person at all. Just hoping to get an idea and some info on what i have. Thanks in advance and if you need more info from me please ask.

    Luger 9mm

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    US Revolver Co. .38

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  3. sgtgret360

    sgtgret360 New Member

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    L. Gasser Wieit 11mm

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  4. Jim K

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    The Luger was made by Deutsche Waffen-und Munitions Works in 1916 for the German army, which called it the Pistole 1908 or P.08. It is chambered for what Americans call the 9mm Luger cartridge. It looks to be in pretty good condition. Matching magazines are uncommon, so that the lack of one does not hurt the value very much. I would estimate the value at around $1700, but Luger prices have gone a bit crazy of late so others might have a different idea.

    The Gasser revolver is Austrian (Wien = Vienna), caliber 11.3mm. It was called the Armeerevolver Lw 16. It was never adopted by the Austrian army but was used by the Landwehr (Lw), or home defense force, 1916-1919. Gussstahl means "cast steel". S. Marke is the abbreviation for Schutzmarke or Trade Mark. Ottakring is a district in Vienna. The mark could either mean that the gun was issued to a Landwehr unit from that district, or that it was at some time used by police in that district. Those mid-late 19th century European revolvers have never gained the U.S. collector interest they should have, mostly because the U.S. was not involved in any of the European wars of the period and there were few "GI bringbacks". I will make a WAG at the value as around $400.

    Jim
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  5. Jim K

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    The U.S. Revolver Co. was a name used by Iver Johnson on a line of revolvers sold to mail order companies rather than through their normal districbutors. They are of decent quality, but did not have the transfer bar safety used in the top line Iver Johnson revolvers. About 690,000 U.S. Revolver Co. top breaks were made from from 1910 to about 1935. They have some collector interest but only if in excellent condition. I would put a value on yours of about $100-125, tops.

    Jim
  6. sgtgret360

    sgtgret360 New Member

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    Thanks a lot Jim. Really helpful info. Really appreciate it. :D
  7. wonderwhippet

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    My all matching common military Lugers in comparable condition are bringing about $1300 these days. Of course, this applies only if the bore is in fine condition and all internal parts such as the firing pin match. A matching magazine would add about $500 to the value.
  8. Jim K

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    I hate to even guess at a value for Lugers and Walther pistols any more. If someone says $1500, someone else will say $200 and another poster will say $5000. Then an old timer will chime in about how he bought Lugers for $30 and none are worth more than that. And another will tell about how his father took a Luger off Adolf Hitler, and we will hear from someone whose uncle took one from Hirohito on Guadalcanal. And so it goes.

    Jim
  9. popgun

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    correct vintage holster for the luger will add $250-$300 in value also.
  10. Insjim

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    Nice Military DWM Luger, I too agree that $1,700 is quite high, It seems to be a number people want for them on quick Google search in which I think Jim K has provided......However in this economy I would bet you a beer that it will not sell for a penny over $1,100 with the mis-matched magazine. I would suspect most of the offers to be $800 to $900 or so. Good luck an it is a nice looking Luger thanks for sharing the pics of it.
  11. wonderwhippet

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    As a long time Luger collector (65 years), I am right up to date with my valuations, since they pass through my hands almost daily.
  12. Insjim

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    There ya go, Sounds like WonderWhippet is a buyer for $1300 if ya need to sell it. Wish I had that many Lugers in my area to buy on a almost daily basis Wow!
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    Oh no, I'm a seller at $1300, but a buyer at $900.
  14. valbehaved

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    I think, this underscores the point I made before:
    It would be fair to the members that ask for our advice, if we quote two prices: a mid-retail price and a mid-wholesale price...or an average of the two.
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