M1A vs AK-47

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  1. thunderchild223

    thunderchild223 New Member

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    in a combat situation which is best. ive heard the M1A is more accurate and heavier but the AK is more reliable and lighter.
  2. aa1911

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    Reliability is the same IMO, M1A will kick the pants off of an AK for accuracy and ballistics. I've yet to ever have a jam with either the M14 or my M1A, many many rounds thru both. AK hasn't jammed yet either though, about 80k rds thru my first one.

    AK's only advantage is size and mag capacity. (and cost)
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    The AK ain't no sniper rifle, but the M1 can be! CQB, the AK comes in first place between the two guns.
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    If I had the money I would own one of those type guns! They are great! .308 wouldn't be a bad choice in this gun either. While the .308 is not the same as the 7.62×51, it ain't that far behind!
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    I know, money is the only reason I don't have one yet! I'm saving up for a new M1A but will probably just get a scout I'm thinking. Next will have to be a bullpup or at least some version of the EBR. The military really needs to revisit the M14 more, it's the perfect battle rifle with a few mods, only on the furniture though. design/action is unbelievably solid.

    Another disadvantage of the AK is the shape of the mags, makes it harder to carry and reload compared to a straight magazine.
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    The military is re-issuing the M14 to the troups in Afghanistan, they have the range advantage, the stopping power, and with optics they make good sniper rifles. Just like they are re-issuing the old .45 to the troups. They like the big bullets better! http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/03/army_m14_032210w/
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    Hey Carver I think you posted a response to this thread under "SELLIER & BELLOT".
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    Yep! Don't know how I did that, but I fixed it, Thanks!
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    I was under the impression that they are the same. The .223 and the 5.56 are different somewhat.
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    IMO the M1A and the Ak are in two very different leagues.

    The M1A ia a battle rifle that is stable enough for precise aimed fire out to 800 yds, making it an effective sniper or countersniper weapon as well. The .308/7.62 NATO round its chambered for is ballistically superior in every way to the 7.62X39 of the AK.

    The AK is an assault weapon. Intended for much shorter ranges where the precision of the weapon is less of a concern. The 7.62X39 round has much less recoil, making it easier to keep on target for follow up shots.

    Either weapon in a trained hand could accomplish any task a battle rifle or assault weapon would be used for, the M1A however will do it with a greater margin of precision.
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    .308 is a hotter round than 7.62 NATO. Dimensionally they are identical. But weapons proofed for the 7.62X51 should not be fired with .308 ammunition.
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    I will also note that the relation between the 5.56X45 and the .223 rem is similar, but backwards. The 5.56 being the hotter round and chamber specs for the 5.56 are different in that the chambers are cut with more leade and a more genrous neck area to accomodate dirty conditions commonly associated with a battlefield.

    5.56 should not be fired in .223 rem chambers.
  14. MadScotsMan

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    M1A, any place, anytime in any conditions.
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    Yes!

    I have never owned a AK, don't see a reason.





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  16. zkovach

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    M1a would be my pick
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    IMO, JLA is right. Apples and Oranges.

    Cost, accuracy, and cleaning paradigms

    are totally different.

    Ergo, no comparison.

    As to choice, and which would I choose?

    When's the last time you heard of an "AK47" (really, AKM, guys)

    jamming?

    When's the last time you heard of someone field-stripping

    and cleaning an M1 on the run, like you can with an AK?

    Once again, no comparison...
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    Agree: Apples and Oranges.
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    Agreed, apples and oranges.


    Not IMHO, I wouldn't want an M1A in an 'in house battle' or CQB, big disadvantage .
  20. 25yretcoastie

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    M1 can reach out and touch someone time never had one jam . When I say reach out I mean really REACH OUT. I will take one anytime.
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