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M2 carbines

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms & Related Items' started by 300 H&H, Apr 26, 2007.

  1. 300 H&H

    300 H&H Active Member

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    Just wondered if anyone has shot an M2. I think in full auto they would more controllable than a sub gun in 45ACP. not to mention more range. But from my very limited experiance in such thing, any thing in full auto is going to be hard to stay on target with, at leaste with out alot of practice. I have a neighbor who had one in Japan at the end of the war, but he says he hardly fired it so does not remember much about the full auto operation.
    I also put in a post on the general military arm thread askin about the Reising sum gun and if anyone has had any experiances with on of those.
    Kirk
  2. JD

    JD *VMBB Admin*

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    Welcome 300,

    I've had a few M2's over the years, the last was one
    that I sold was within the past 5-6 years or so....

    Depending on whether you purchase an actual M2 or
    an M2 Trigger Pack conversion is where some differences
    can vary such as, usually (in my experience) an original M2
    will run flawlessly, where as, conversion Trigger Packs are
    fine as far as their part in running goes, if a coversion M2
    Trigger Pack is installed into an M1 Carbine (with M2 Stock)
    be sure to polish the feed ramp, or at least smooth it as best
    you can by hand with a decent abrasive, and it should run fine.

    As for the accuracy / controlability part, although it is a short
    to (maximum) medium range caliber, it still will require a bit of
    practice to bring it to where you're hitting your designated area.

    Keep it lube'd with synthethic cleaner/lube (if possible) such as
    what I've considerd the best (as have the most elite) over
    the years *EEZOX Premium Synthetic Gun Care* which is a true
    all in one gun care formula, I speak from personal experience as
    well....
  3. polishshooter

    polishshooter Active Member

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    There's a guy who hangs out in History with us named Ursus who owned one and used it a lot 20 years ago. And is kicking himself he sold it.

    He's from El Salvador and fought for the "good guys" in ther civil war during the Reagan years.

    There's a thread from about a year or two ago there too where we talked about the carbine and he had some interesting thsngs to say about it, as well as some posts from some Korean Vets that recounted some of their Korean War stories, including one of taking a smal buck with an M2 near the 38th....
  4. Ursus

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    Here I am!. The D....SS who let it go! Actually. the M-2 never dissapointed me in those years. It was accurate and controllable, and nobody standing in front of it, ever complainned about lack of stopping power;)
  5. polishshooter

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    See? Good Guys seem to follow me!:D Thanks, Ursus.


    I also used to know a pretty radical but trustworthy Seneca that I used to work with in the late 70s who liked me because I "liked guns" (and probably because I "didn't have a dog in the fight" in the troubles between the Seneca Nation of Indians and the local whites in the only US city that is actually on a reservation....) that was actually a "warrior" at the AIM "uprising" at Wounded Knee in the early 70s, (Late 60s? I can't remember....) that told me he stood "night guard duty" during the standoff with an M2 Carbine they gave him, but with only ten rounds in the mag.

    He said he never shot it, but he was tempted every night to empty the mag at a tree just to see how it worked.:cool:

    He also told me the press never told the complete truth about it, that there were a LOT more US Marshalls killed and wounded than the official accounts said in the initial skirmishes before the "standoff," and that he saw that the actual Indian "fighters" had "quite a few AK-47s," which leads me to believe that just MAYBE the KGB was involved a little, just like they were involved "a little" in the Civil RIghts Movement, and the race riots in the 60s, and the SDS and the protests against the Vietnam War in the 70s....(There were NOT a lot of "legal" AKs in the States in the 60s and 70s....!)

    And as an aside, (that probably belongs in another thread, sorry) even though I know this country is pretty divided in opinions about the war in Iraq, I wonder if when they DO manage a protest about the war they only draw about 43 people (about 10 of them being obviously drug addled 1960s Hippes, 20 of them Move-on-dot -Org-spittle-on-lips wacko I-hate-George Bush liberals, and the rest being Democrat Congressman and Senators trying to get on TV) and remembering all the tens of thousands of protesters of Vietnam clogging every college campus and the mall in DC shown every night on Walter Cronkite.....I just WONDER how much of that back then just MIGHT have been financed by the KGB....Hhhmmm....
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  6. southernshooter

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    300 Any machinegun is controllable, If you shoot it right. Just because you can shoot full-auto don't mean you have to shoot it full auto, Just shoot some nice controllable burst, I have shot a Glock 18 and it is completly controlable if you shoot 3-5 round burst but in full auto it is like trying to hold on to a fire house with one hand.
    But the above statement don't apply on Mac's and other open bolt machinegun because if you let go of the trigger and the bolt is closed it will not shoot again with out cocking it again
  7. southernshooter

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  8. 191145A1

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    The Israelis apparently agree the the .30 Carbine may be the best sub-gun of all time - they have some kind of bullpup set-up with a M2 carbine in it. I spotted it being carried by a 'secret service'-type in a picture from Israel awhile back. While mediocre as a battle rifle (which it was never intended to be), the carbine is smashing as a sub-gun. I think the M1 is tops as a home defense gun too, particularly in a folding or collapsible stock.
  9. Oldeyes

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    My "legacy" non issue sidearm in Viet Nam ('69-70'), that was handed down from the individual that I replaced, was an M2 that had been converted years before into a pistol configuration. What with back to back taped together 30 round magazines, it was a most effective little close quarter weapon. It was also in point of fact very controllable in FA usage. It almost felt like a FA 9mm H&K MP5 in use. In a very close order drill, the M2 was also fairly widely known to be a weapon that you did not want to get in front of. It would deliver the rounds, it was reliable, and it was relatively accurate (considering).

    My M2 also served as a most effective visually deterrent 'loaner' for all of the various officers assigned to be the monthly pay officer for the unit. The pay officers typically had to ride 20 miles or so through oftentimes rather questionable loyalty, high road traffic territory to pick up in excess of $50,000 or so in cash to pay all of the other troops in the unit. The usual 1911 officer's sidearm (which was often holstered) just did not have the same threat to life and limb factor as the pistol gripped exposed M2. The local bad guys where I was did not take to long to figure out that an officer coming out the disbursing cashier with a large brown paper grocery bag on pay day was a reasonably good target. At the time, the old 'distract the officer and driver and then reach into the jeep to grab the cash' gambit occasionally worked effectively as a tactic against the poor assigned monthly pay officer's of other units. Those particular hit and run payroll thefts tended to generate great smoke, super nasty paperwork, and occasional non judicial punishment for the officers involved. However, it seemed that having the pistol gripped M2 in your lap with your hand on the grip, barrel pointing out into the passing traffic, and finger around (no not on) the trigger was something that they did not want become involved with. We went through 12 pay cycles without a loss while I was there. Great little gun.

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