Magazine Care

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  1. Cgull

    Cgull New Member

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    I've heard it will damage the magazine spring if left fully loaded for long periods, If so, will having a half full magazine be better? I'd hate to have all my magazines empty during a home invasion.
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    Rotate them, keep one or more full and then switch it out after a couple of weeks. Or load them only mostly full.

    Hey, welcome to the forum! Much information here, lots of excellent people to meet.
  3. artabr

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    I've heard repeated stories of 1911 mags found that had been loaded since World War 2 that worked fine when fired.
    That being said, I would personally alternate or rotate my mags if possible just to be on the safe side.


    Art
  4. Alpo

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    Testing has proven that having a spring at rest or at full compression makes no difference on the life or power of the spring. What wears out springs is movement. The compressing and then uncompressing of springs cause their eventual failure.

    In simpler terms, leaving the magazines loaded all the time will make your mag springs last longer than unloading them, every so often, so they "can rest".
  5. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Guest

    True, Alpo.

    Pops
  6. TranterUK

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    It may be true they dont weaken if loaded for long periods, but I rotate them anyway, and change the cartridges for fresh once in a while.

    I also number the mags, so I know which if any are mis behaving.
  7. artabr

    artabr New Member

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    Mine are numbered also. ;) :D

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  8. Bill DeShivs

    Bill DeShivs Well-Known Member

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    They were meant to be left fully loaded indefinitely.
  9. Cgull

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    thanks all, very helpful info.
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    One of the Biggest " urban myths" in the gun world is , Magazines will get weak if left loaded. And there are those who will become very angry if you try and tell them other wise :) Also FWIW, if your ammo is clean and dry, there is no need to rotate it, however if you are the type to use a lot of oil on your firearm, then yes it would not hurt to rotate your ammo every 6 months.
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  11. Crpdeth

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    Ask 'em if they also flip their cars upside down every so often to let those springs "rest" as well. :D

    I always liked that one. :D

    But seriously, I wouldn't fault anyone who switched 'em out every few months if it made them feel better, heck I know people who put a TON of lead downrange and aren't they compressing, then decompressing those mags? ;)

    My advice it to buy good quality mags in the first place to eliminate a few variables, then do what makes you feel good.

    Personally, mine stay loaded quite a bit, especially with the price of ammo and my inability to afford much range time these days.


    Crpdeth
  12. woolleyworm

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    My ammo is constantly rotated; I most always will shoot at least a full mag of my defense ammo while at the range. I tend to believe that frequent practice with defense loads keeps me in better conditioning for the recoil and sight picture needed for point of impact. ( it also keeps a fresh round in the chamber, so as to avoid over chambering a round )

    I keep all my mags fully loaded, never had any premature failures. I clean them on a frequent basis, but not every time out. I think every 40-50 rounds is more than enough; I haven't had any magazine issues following this cleaning cycle.
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  13. Hammerslagger

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    From an engineering point of view a spring is not damaged staticly as long as it is not compressed or stretched past the "yield point" of the the material of which it is made. Constant flexing (near to the yield point, and especially beyond) tends to wear a spring out over flexing cycles.

    Threaded fasteners are actually a type of spring. In some applications (like clyinder head or flywheel applications) they are tightened right up to the yield pont of the metal for maximum clamping force. They may remain there and retain their clamping power for many years and hours of running service. However in some extreme service applications they may not be reused (or reused only once) after being loosened or removed.

    The more fully frequently you load a magazine the more you stress the spring. I rarely load more than about 80% for practice with a mag that I use in a carry pistol. I do not "top off" magazines after loading the chamber for reliability considerations in a carry gun.

    As the late Jeff Cooper once remarked, Sgt. York's 6 Germans, with a 1911, seems to be the documented world record for the most men killed by one man at one time with a pistol in a fight. One is not likely to need many more shots unless one plans on missing a lot.
  14. TranterUK

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    As I said, I am sure those who say rotation is not necessary are correct, also that cartridges stay good for a long, long time.

    Non the less I for one will rotate, refresh and check from time to time because if TSHF a failure to fire, even a momentary failure of feed or misfire can cost you your life. No second chance.

    If you have ever used a firearm in the face of a threat, you will know the feeling 'this better work, and right now'.
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  15. GunHugger

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    I have had a 1911 mag fully loaded for 22 years now...it still functions fine. I check about once per year. I also have a 30 round AR mag that has been loaded with 29 rounds for the past 7 years and it still works fine.

    I have had to replace springs in a few mags that get used a lot.
  16. Alpo

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    How? If it has been fully loaded for 22 years, how do you check it? The only way I can see to check magazine function is to cycle some rounds through it, which would make it no longer fully loaded?
  17. GunHugger

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    I take it out and empty it by shooting the rounds in it, then I reload it. Sorry....didn't think that needed explained in my post above. How else would I know if it still functions?:D

    I didn't check it for the first 10 years or so because I forgot about it. And I did miss a few years here and there. So, all totalled I'll guess it has been reloaded and fired about 10 times. I just used it last month, worked fine.
  18. Islandboy

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    Don't forget to put winter air in your tires while your at it.
    In the SHTF moment, your still counting on the round itself not being a dud.
    All the rest is prep and readyness.
  19. cycloneman

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    Spring steel can loose a bit of its stiffness however not enough to matter. Load away as others have said. I have had some for at least 20 years under pressure. They shoot fine.;)
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