Man finally executed after a years legal fight

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  1. jack404

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    there is not much on this case besides this article , howevre the Saudi morals police did announce the execution of this man on friday Oct 15th saying he had stated his Prayers to Allah and been executed according to the law

    ( meaning he was tortured until he renounced his Christian faith and only then did they show mercy and execute him, many die under the transformation back to Islam)

    Authorities Arrest Christian Convert
    Blogger incarcerated after writing about conversion, criticizing Islamic judiciary.

    LOS ANGELES, January 28 2009 (CDN) — Five months after the daughter of a member of Saudi Arabia’s religious police was killed for writing online about her faith in Christ, Saudi authorities have reportedly arrested a 28-year-old Christian man for describing his conversion and criticizing the kingdom’s judiciary on his Web site.

    Saudi police arrested Hamoud Bin Saleh on Jan. 13 “because of his opinions and his testimony that he had converted from Islam to Christianity,” according to the Arabic Network for Human Rights Information (ANHRI). Bin Saleh, who had been detained for nine months in 2004 and again for a month last November, was reportedly being held in Riyadh’s Eleisha prison.

    On his web site, which Saudi authorities have blocked, Bin Saleh wrote that his journey to Christ began after witnessing the public beheading of three Pakistanis convicted of drug charges. Shaken, he began an extensive study of Islamic history and law, as well as Saudi justice. He became disillusioned with sharia (Islamic law) and dismayed that kingdom authorities only prosecuted poor Saudis and foreigners.

    “I was convinced that the wretched Pakistanis were executed in accordance with the Muhammadan laws just because they are poor and have no money or favored positions, which they had no control or power over,” he wrote in Arabic in his Dec. 22 posting, referring to “this terrible prejudice in the application of justice in Saudi Arabia.”

    A 2003 graduate in English literature from Al Yarmouk University in Jordan, Bin Saleh’s research led him to an exploration of other faiths, and in his travels he gained access to a Bible.

    “My mind was persistently raising questions and desperately seeking answers,” he wrote. “I went on vacations to read about comparative religion, and I got the Bible, and I used to give these books to anyone before going back to Saudi, as going back there with such books is considered an unforgivable crime which will throw its perpetrator in a dark jail.”

    After reading how Jesus forgave – rather than stoned – a woman condemned for adultery, Bin Saleh eventually received Christ as savior.

    “Jesus . . . took us beyond physical salvation as he offered us forgiveness that is the salvation of eternal life and compassion,” he wrote. “Just look and ask for the light of God; there might be no available books to help you make a comparative study between the teachings of Muhammad (which are in my opinion a series of political, social, economical and human disasters) and the teaching of Jesus in Saudi Arabia, but there are many resources on the Web by which you might get to the bosom/arms of the Father of salvation. Seek salvation and you will reach it; may the Lord keep you from the devil’s pitfalls.”

    With the Quran and sayings of Muhammad (Sunna) as its constitution, Saudi Arabia enforces a form of sharia derived from 18th-century Sunni scholar Muhammad ibn Abd Al-Wahhab that calls for the death penalty for “blasphemy,” or insulting Islam or its prophet, Muhammad. Likewise, conversion from Islam to another faith, “apostasy,” is punishable by death, although the U.S. Department of State’s 2008 International Religious Freedom Report notes that there have been no confirmed reports of executions for either blasphemy or apostasy in recent years.

    Saudi Arabia’s ruling monarchy restricts media and other forms of public expression, though authorities have shown some tolerance for criticism and debate since King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud officially ascended to the throne in 2005, according to the state department report.

    A spokesman for the Saudi Arabian embassy in Washington, D.C. would neither confirm the Jan. 13 arrest of Bin Saleh nor comment on the reasons for it.

    Previous Arrests
    Writing that both Islam and Saudi Arabia promote injustice and inequality, Bin Saleh described himself as a researcher/writer bent on obtaining full rights of the Christian minority in Saudi Arabia.

    He noted on his now-banned Web site (“Masihi Saudi,” at http://christforsaudi.blogspot.com) that he had been arrested twice, the first time in Beirut, Lebanon on Jan. 18, 2004. The U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees office there had notified Saudi authorities that he had been accepted as a “refugee for ideological persecution reasons,” he wrote, but a few days later intelligence agents from the Saudi embassy in Beirut, “with collusion of Lebanese authorities and the government of [former Prime Minister] Rafik Al-Hariri,” turned him over to Saudi officials.
    After nine months of detention in Saudi Arabia, he was released but banned from traveling, writing and appearing in media.

    He was arrested a second time on Nov. 1, 2008. “I was interrogated for a month about some articles by which I condemned the Saudi regime’s violation of human rights and [rights of] converts to Christianity,” he wrote.

    During a Saudi-sponsored, inter-faith dialogue conference at U.N. headquarters in New York involving representatives from 80 countries on Nov. 12-13, according to ANHRI, Saudi authorities released Bin Saleh, then promptly re-arrested him after it was over.

    His November arrest came a little less than a year after political critic Fouad Ahmad al-Farhan became the first Saudi to be arrested for Web site postings on Dec. 10, 2007; Al-Farhan was released in April 2008.

    In August 2008, a 26-year-old woman was killed for disclosing her faith on a Web site. Fatima Al-Mutairi reportedly had revealed on Web postings that she had left Islam to become a Christian.

    Gulfnews.com reported on Aug. 12, 2008 that her father, a member of the religious police or Commission for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, cut out her tongue and burned her to death “following a heated debate on religion.” Al-Mutairi had written about hostilities from family members after they discovered she was a Christian, including insults from her brother after he saw her Web postings about her faith. Some reports indicated that her brother was the one who killed her.

    She had reportedly written an article about her faith on a blog of which she was a member under the nickname “Rania” a few days before her murder.


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    This is what the face of Islam really looks like, totalitarian, pitiless, deceitful,
    and just outright nasty

    Now the guy is dead expect the publication of his journal , thats states how wrong he was to leave Islam and implore others to not be fooled like he was ..

    its normal this happens a couple of months after the execution in Saudi and other places

    women dont make such journals as they are only women and cannot influence anyone or anything ;)
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    As I have said before, the liberals in the US have no idea what a takeover by Muslims would entail. The only reason they are so keen on Muslims right now is they are anti-Christian.

    It is the old "any enemy of my enemy is my friend---at least for the present time".

    The liberals think that once they (in cahoots with Muslims) bring down Christianity, they will deal with the Muslims.

    What you see in Saudi is what you'll get in the US if the Muslims get control.

    And that is not beyond the realm of possibility.

    By the way, the first round of beheadings, if Muslims take over, will be the mass of liberals who supported the takeover.
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    In the Sudanese areas where Islam is law they took out all the Pagans ( non koranic referenced folks ) killed em and took the women and female children as slaves to covert

    Jew's ( and there were many Jew's there, there's a couple million in Ethiopia still ) where given the chance to convert after being tortured , most took death, but most where beyond the available medical help anyway (none ..)

    Christians where torn apart by land rovers for sport or publicly castrated before being beheaded or having there hands and feet chopped off before beheading
    Children where put on spits and carried around screaming

    You have to go to them and ask to convert to Islam to avoid these punishments

    they do this to prevent you resisting them and then converting when captured

    remember they are fighting villagers that over the years have been disarmed by every warlord and semi government thats been there ,

    while in Sudan i saw a Christian church 1400 years old

    i saw a synagogue even older , just down the way

    these two great Faiths had lived side by side with the pagans of the region for over 1400 years until Islam came , then the wars started , Janjouee (sp?) attacks Burka's on women , banning of schools other than madrassa's ( religious jihadist schools)
    the encroachment on to the southern part that was previously set aside by the UN as a safe haven for the non muslims

    they promised to leave the south alone , 29 times so far

    but thers been over 39,000 attacks since the promises started and many more unreported from being there where no survivors or witness's left

    but muslims now say Sudan is a muslim nation the UN agree's

    another whitewash

    Lies , deception , hatred , torture, evils beyond belief,

    This IS Islam
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    Hey in the early pics the explorers took in Arabia, veils and such where like hankies strung across the face
    veils where almost unknown except in a few cities in africa

    so where'd the Burka come from ?

    first reference to a dress like the burka is a female slave item from africa south of current morroco

    Its not of Islam but a adaption to please the slavers in west africa as they supplied all the slaves to the west and america's , and to bring them onboard they had to allow this slave item for their women who they also thought of as property to be traded and treated as cattle

    Islam grew through slavery in those days and wishes to do so again

    who needs technology when you can buy servants and slaves to do all you need to make money ? 7th century living is so easy ;) for some
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